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Old 11-01-2009, 08:19 AM
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Default 17 year olds on the ship.

This is not really to restart anything serious regarding Chekov and his presence on the ship specifically, because obviously his birth etc seems to have been altered anyway to get him onto the ship in time.

But, there was a lot of scoffing that he should be on the ship at that age period, because in the film he's described as being 17 years old. Not a lot younger than in TOS, but enough to cause issue at the time.

Anyways, I just caught something while watching 'Charlie X' just now. Yeoman Rand introduces Charlie to Yeoman Third Class Tina Lawton, and Rand clearly states 'I thought you might enjoy meeting someone your own age' to Charlie.

If we take this literally and as we know Charlie is 17, then we must deduce that this ship's crew-member must be 17 as well.

Which means that it's not apparently not odd for a 17 year old to be serving aboard a starship.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:27 AM
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Best illustration of meritocracy, aged oes not matter? If you are exceptionally gifted like Wesley or Chekov, you do everything a bit faster than the other folks.
Contemporary prodigies also attend university or play chess with grandmasters when they are kids or teenagers.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:37 AM
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Indeed, and also seems to reaffirm the looser developmental structure that we could potentially deduce from 23rd Century Starfleet.

A greater reliance on individual ability, talent and that said talent is rewarded in the field without having to adhere to a too structured program.

Unlike the one that seems to have been adopted a little more by the TNG era.
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A yeoman is not an officer, right? Most people are < 18 when they start working as a lab technician, for example.
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Indeed, and also seems to reaffirm the looser developmental structure that we could potentially deduce from 23rd Century Starfleet.

A greater reliance on individual ability, talent and that said talent is rewarded in the field without having to adhere to a too structured program.

Unlike the one that seems to have been adopted a little more by the TNG era.
One could question how an underage Starfleet officer can take temporary bridge command on the flagship of the Federation but I guess that he will be treated in every aspect like an adult, e.g. if he seriously messes up, he will be court-martialed and potentially land in prison, no youth law stuff.
I think it is important to point these responsibilities out as one could get the impression that open and flexible career structures provide an easy life for kids like Chekov who have already made it.
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A yeoman is not an officer, right? Most people are < 18 when they start working as a lab technician, for example.
I'm not sure of rank structure as it applies to Star Trek, but since Chekov was an Ensign he would be a rank officer.

Additionally this isn't inconsistent with Wesley being field promoted by Picard at around the same age. His field advancement gave him the full priviledges of that rank even though he had yet to set foot near Starfleet Academy.

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One could question how an underage Starfleet officer can take temporary bridge command on the flagship of the Federation but I guess that he will be treated in every aspect like an adult, e.g. if he seriously messes up, he will be court-martialed and potentially land in prison, no youth law stuff. I think it is important to point these responsibilities out as one could get the impression that open and flexible career structures provide an easy life for kids like Chekov who have already made it.
One could presume that (as he is wearing Yellow) he may then be on the Command Track and, as noted, would have to face the consequences if he fouled up in his duties.
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I would assume the Academy accepts 16 year olds into it's 4 year structure?
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Stop. Youre not supposed to ask such questions about movie logic.
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Stop. Youre not supposed to ask such questions about movie logic.

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Stop. Youre not supposed to ask such questions about movie logic.
Oops..sorry about running that stop over!
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