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Old 10-24-2009, 12:43 AM
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Okay, interested to hear the theories for the difference in the Enterprise's battle damage between the end of TWOK and the start of TSFS.

I understand Nimoy wanted the Ship to look more beat up than it was at the end of TWOK, but what could be the "in-universe" explanations for the damage that suddenly appeared on the top of the saucer, the starboard side of the engineering hull and the nacelles?
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Old 10-24-2009, 03:04 AM
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Easy. On the way home from Genesis, the Enterprise was attacked by klingons. At least, that's the theory I've heard.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:01 AM
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That's it? I thought it might have been explained by the external paint blistering from the intense heat of internal fires.
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Easy. On the way home from Genesis, the Enterprise was attacked by klingons. At least, that's the theory I've heard.

I read Kruge wasn't the only Klingon after the secret of Genesis or something to that effect. The film gives the impression he's a renegade but supposedly that's not true now, he was part of a bigger effort by the Klingons to secure Genesis and after they failed to take down Enterprise he got part of the information then went to the Genesis planet to see what could be learned. Now that's some of what was going around in the late 80's and thru the 90's but I'm not swearing by it. There's probably a whole different explanation by now.
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:44 PM
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To me, it's just that we didn't see how badly Enterprise was hit by Reliant in TWOK, but we did in TSFS.
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To me, it's just that we didn't see how badly Enterprise was hit by Reliant in TWOK, but we did in TSFS.

That's about how I dealt with it too when the movies came out. If things don't necessarily add up in a movie or from one movie to the next I tend to resolve the issue "in my own mind" so to speak and sometimes if my explanation works better than what the creators are coming up with it stays canon in the Howlin' Wolf Universe.
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Old 10-24-2009, 09:02 PM
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Damage from superheated gases in the Mutara Nebula?
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:59 AM
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To me, it's just that we didn't see how badly Enterprise was hit by Reliant in TWOK, but we did in TSFS.
Which, I imagine is the most straightforward way to approach it.

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That's about how I dealt with it too when the movies came out. If things don't necessarily add up in a movie or from one movie to the next I tend to resolve the issue "in my own mind" so to speak and sometimes if my explanation works better than what the creators are coming up with it stays canon in the Howlin' Wolf Universe.
Bearing in mind that even the various Enterprises don't always get portrayed consistently anyway as phaser and torpedo launchers change, deck numbers and arrangements change etc I tend to approach battle damage in the same way.
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:42 AM
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It's possible one of the inexperienced cadets made a mistake and damaged the ship during repair efforts on its way back to Spacedock
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