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Old 03-07-2008, 09:16 PM
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Thumbs up Harlan Ellison & The City on the Edge of Forever

I'm sure you guys already know this, but just in case...

White Wolf put out a book 1995 that contains the original version of City. It's really good reading! I can't honestly see how it ever could have been filmed in an hour-long format, but the story is, well, it's Ellison! DC Fontana, D. Kelley, Koenig and Nimoy all write a few paragraphs in it as well.
Ellison also wrote a story about Walter Koenig's son called Jefty is Five.

Just a little trivia for y'all.

---> I just checked Amazon and the book is out of print but was still kind of easy to find. The ISBNs are 1565049640 and 978-1565049642.
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:36 PM
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I have never see that episode but really want to.
I wonder if it could be done as a movie with the new crew.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:13 AM
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I read (supposedly) the original script (or one of the ''originals'') on file at the AFI back in the early 1990's -- and to be perfectly candid -- I had to keep turning back to the cover to make sure I was reading a Star Trek story. That's one of the things Gene Roddenberry was pretty good at -- re-writing. I think he made the correct choice in this case -- no disrespect to Harlan Ellison. Without Ellison's original concept there would be no COTEoF, so either way, he deserves his share of credit for the end product. Think how many re-writes of motion pictures happen in the movie-making process and how often the original draft changes drastically by the final draft due to re-writes by other writers, for producers, by or for directors (even for ''above the title'' actors) and so on. It's an ''intellectual cost of doing business'' as a writer in this particular industry. If you want more control, become a writer-producer or writer-director or some combination of such.
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:22 AM
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I totally agree. It would have been a GREAT movie, but a TV episode? Nah. Either way, it's always entertaining when Mr. Ellison gets the bit between his teeth about something!
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Old 03-10-2008, 01:43 AM
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Apparently the guardian of forever was surounded by ruins in the show because someone misread the word "Runes" in the script.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:19 AM
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I don't know there's been so may things said about this episode over the years....Harlan is diffficult, even at the best of times.

But Harlan never got the concept he was a "hired gun" for this.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:54 PM
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He's a weird guy, some of the stuff he's written is downright disturbing. But getting upset about his story which included a drug dealer on the Enterprise being changed, well, seems a little silly to me.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:11 PM
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That's what we call an ego running amok! I can just hear the censors at NBC with THAT one...
I don't think the phrase "hired gun" was in Harlan's vocabulary, at least applying to him. To me, though, that's what made him such a great writer.
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I always love Isaac Asimov's description of Harlan Ellison: He demanded no quarter on the condition no one demanded quarter of him. Ellison is a treasure...a snarky, growling treasure, but a treasure.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:32 AM
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Eliza-

That is probably the best thing ever said about him.
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