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Old 10-16-2009, 02:23 PM
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Question Are deleted scenes still canon?

Curious...are the deleted scenes in the films still considered to be canon? I mean, minus the scenes from Generations that show the alternate version of Kirk's death and things like that, but what about the whole Martin Madden replacing Riker thing? I mean, since they weren't in the final cut of the film there shouldn't really be any point in not allowing them to be canon just due to time constraints. I honestly think that some of the scenes taken out of Nemesis would have made the film a whole lot better.

But this question is in general for all the scenes from the Trek films that have been taken out.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:27 PM
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I would say no. Generally scenes are cut for a reason, the Klingon scenes in the new film being a good example of this. The final cut is the story that the filmakers want to tell, for better or worse.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:28 PM
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I would say no. Generally scenes are cut for a reason, the Klingon scenes in the new film being a good example of this. The final cut is the story that the filmakers want to tell, for better or worse.
Gotcha. Makes sense.
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I'd say the deleted scenes are not canon. If they weren't in the original cinema/ movie theatre release then no-one would have known about them until DVDs first came out.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:44 PM
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They're "alternate realities".
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:32 PM
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Not to start a Trek vs. Wars debate, but I love the way that Lucas includes everything in the Star Wars canon (even if it is in different levels). Even deleted scenes are canon in the Star Wars universe. For whatever reason, Trek canon has always been kinda flawed IMO. This is the only aspect where I prefer one over the other.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:41 PM
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Except for all the fanboys who still think Boba Fett is still alive because of the Dark Horse comics.....ugh.
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Except for all the fanboys who still think Boba Fett is still alive because of the Dark Horse comics.....ugh.
I'll admit that was dumb, but it's canon. Just like The Final Frontier and Insurrection are dumb, but they're canon.
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Except for all the fanboys who still think Boba Fett is still alive because of the Dark Horse comics.....ugh.
Yeah everyone, he died a clumsy death, was swallowed, digested, and burped back out as a gag. You could not possibly make a more definiteve statement regarding him being a total loser (let alone the fact that he's dead). And this is the nameless guy that all the fans have such a hard-on for?

(Sorry, couldn't help myself)

On a more serious note, I don't see why not. If nothing else in the movie contradicts it, the deleted material might as well be canon.

Besides, sometimes it's fairly obvious a movie has skipped over some semi-important piece of information: "His haauuuuugggghhhhht just wasn't in it."
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