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Old 03-11-2008, 09:16 AM
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Now as for Kirk's age, I read once that he was 29 years old when he took command of the Enterprise in 2263....
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FASA's dates were actually about right, if you go by the old Pocket Books CHRONOLOGY OF SPACE FLIGHT..........

Which when the game was created was the only source for dates at the time......
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Plus if you kick in SPACE SEEDS and Khan having been in cryo-sleep for just over 200 years... That would mean that episode took place somewhere shortly after the year 2196.....
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:27 AM
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Kirk was 34, at the time the youngest Cap. in the fleet (TOS)

Problem you run into Dol, is that it files in the face of all established timelines for Trek currently used.

I loved the FASA game too, but they were making guesses on alot of it, since no one had done the timelines yet.

Wasn't even until TWOK we knew it took place in the 23rd century offically. Yes, there were time hints in TOS, but nothing defintive.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:11 AM
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You know where we run into problems - is when did Spock's service aboard the Enterprise begin? The latest it could've begun is sometime in 2253, but canon has it begin in 2254. Heck, he's only a year older then Kirk, too (2232).

Direct quote from Spock's bio on MA: By 2254, he was assigned to the USS Enterprise. That gives us some wiggle room. So hopefully, this movie will fix Spock's report date, and put it somewhere where that "11 years, 4 months..." line fits (2252-2253).

I suppose you could make it work this way, for example...

Sep 2245: Enterprise launched - shakedown cruises, etc...
Mar 2246-Mar 2250: Enterprise 5 year mission w/April
Aug 2250-Aug 2254, Jan 2255-Jan 2259, May 2260-May 2264: Pike's three 5 year missions. Spock joined the crew in early 2252. Pike steps down as Captain in the middle of 2263. A few months pass while a suitable replacement is sought. Ambassador April recommends a bright young prodigy, James Kirk. The ship undergoes a minor refit while the search for Captain goes on. At a ceremony, Kirk takes command and completes Pike's 3rd 5 year mission. Where No Man Has Gone Before is during that time, before Kirk's own 5 year mission begins. That would explain the differences in ship appearance.

May 2264-Aug 2265: Enterprise undergoes a more extensive refit.
Oct 2265-Oct 2269: Kirk's 5 year mission.
That puts TMP in Apr 2272.
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:15 AM
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Thought Pike only did 2 Five Year Missions. That would include minimal refit time for each one too, in thenumbers you gave us.
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Thought Pike only did 2 Five Year Missions. That would include minimal refit time for each one too, in thenumbers you gave us.
Yes, but the 11 years line wouldn't fit with only two 5 year missions.
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I haven't found anything suggesting Pike completed three five-year missions, not even Memory Alpha supports that. They estimate Pike took command of the Enterprise in the "early 2250s" and handed over command to Kirk in 2265.

Any later date than 2250 exactly means Pike wasn't even in command of the Enterprise for 15 full years, let alone did three five-year missions in the chair.

The math simply doesn't work, even if you buy MA's dates 100% (which I don't).
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Ok, what I meant was that it would jibe if you had 6 mons or a year refit between the 2 missions.
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I haven't found anything suggesting Pike completed three five-year missions, not even Memory Alpha supports that. They estimate Pike took command of the Enterprise in the "early 2250s" and handed over command to Kirk in 2265.

Any later date than 2250 exactly means Pike wasn't even in command of the Enterprise for 15 full years, let alone did three five-year missions in the chair.

The math simply doesn't work, even if you buy MA's dates 100% (which I don't).
I never said he completed 3 five year missions. He stepped down in the middle of his 3rd one.
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