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Old 10-04-2009, 04:57 PM
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Interestingly familiar concept.

It doesn't look too bad but I think there's a better sense of 'evolution' out of the design they went with for the NX-01.

That's concept is just too close to the Constitution.

why go with connie like designs?? the connie had to derive it's design from something else, it's a chain in trek history the excelsior came from the connie, the ambassador derived parts of it's design from the excelsior then the galaxy derived from both excelsior and ambassador, personally the galaxy looks like a blown up ambassador.
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:39 PM
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why go with connie like designs?? the connie had to derive it's design from something else, it's a chain in trek history the excelsior came from the connie, the ambassador derived parts of it's design from the excelsior then the galaxy derived from both excelsior and ambassador, personally the galaxy looks like a blown up ambassador.
I disagreed with about every artistic direction the Ent folks went with the series. The Enterprise looks like an Akira-class ship.

My gripe with the designs on ENT is my gripe with the series. They didn't go far enough. They had the chance to do real exploring, on the edge, with real danger. VOY had to play it safe because the episodes were designed to run in syndication in any order, but ENT had the story arcs.

Most Enterprise episodes make first-time deep space exploration seem as mundane as Picard deciding to park the D for a little gaze at a quasar, before moving on to beam down supplies to some colonists to avoid a plague.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:55 PM
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why go with connie like designs?? the connie had to derive it's design from something else, it's a chain in trek history the excelsior came from the connie, the ambassador derived parts of it's design from the excelsior then the galaxy derived from both excelsior and ambassador, personally the galaxy looks like a blown up ambassador.
Indeed, there is an evolution through the ships that is clear when put side by side. Although I always found the Ambassador ill-proportioned and puffy looking.
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:14 AM
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But it follows Matt Jefferies basic design. It's got some cosmetic diffrences heck yeah, but it still follows the same basic design elements.
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why go with connie like designs?? the connie had to derive it's design from something else, it's a chain in trek history the excelsior came from the connie, the ambassador derived parts of it's design from the excelsior then the galaxy derived from both excelsior and ambassador, personally the galaxy looks like a blown up ambassador.
IMO, the reason why early versions of the NX-01 were pretty much retreads of the Constitution-class was because they wanted a ship that could be easily identified by casual audiences as a "Star Trek ship" and that pretty much meant something with a saucer section and two nacelles.

There was one very early design, however, that really reeked of the Battlestar Galactica--essentially a submarine with two lowered warp nacelles--but this was nixed almost immediately.
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IMO, the reason why early versions of the NX-01 were pretty much retreads of the Constitution-class was because they wanted a ship that could be easily identified by casual audiences as a "Star Trek ship" and that pretty much meant something with a saucer section and two nacelles.

There was one very early design, however, that really reeked of the Battlestar Galactica--essentially a submarine with two lowered warp nacelles--but this was nixed almost immediately.
Where can we see a pic of it?
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IMO, the reason why early versions of the NX-01 were pretty much retreads of the Constitution-class was because they wanted a ship that could be easily identified by casual audiences as a "Star Trek ship" and that pretty much meant something with a saucer section and two nacelles.

There was one very early design, however, that really reeked of the Battlestar Galactica--essentially a submarine with two lowered warp nacelles--but this was nixed almost immediately.
Like an enlarged Phoenix?

Well, the NX-01's interior sets retained a modified submarine evoking feel in their final form. Wonder if that was a partial carry-over.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:21 AM
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IMO, the reason why early versions of the NX-01 were pretty much retreads of the Constitution-class was because they wanted a ship that could be easily identified by casual audiences as a "Star Trek ship" and that pretty much meant something with a saucer section and two nacelles.

There was one very early design, however, that really reeked of the Battlestar Galactica--essentially a submarine with two lowered warp nacelles--but this was nixed almost immediately.
Like an enlarged Phoenix?

Well, the NX-01's interior sets retained a modified submarine evoking feel in their final form. Wonder if that was a partial carry-over.
It might very well have been.

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Where can we see a pic of it?
Here it is--at ENT concept artist John Eaves' personal site. In addition to the NX-01, Eaves also drew up the initial sketches for the Enterprise-E with longtime Trek production designer Herman Zimmerman. Eaves also goes on a little bit to tell how the NX-01 design process quickly went from "let's do something completely different" to "let's do something more traditional."
http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/...e-early-nx-01/
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Here it is--at ENT concept artist John Eaves' personal site. In addition to the NX-01, Eaves also drew up the initial sketches for the Enterprise-E with longtime Trek production designer Herman Zimmerman. Eaves also goes on a little bit to tell how the NX-01 design process quickly went from "let's do something completely different" to "let's do something more traditional."
http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/...e-early-nx-01/
I like the "submarine" aspect, it reminds me as Trek fan of the "sleeper ship" we saw on TOS the DY100..or something like that.

But it definately needed more "Pheonix-like" nacelles.

As you said the ones that were drawn on there look too BSG.
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Its certainly BSG-ish but by first impression was of an elongated shuttlecraft.
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