[jla1987]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

LOL!!

Funny, eh? Honestly though, I think I might prefer the duo to Gerrold. Don't let Zim know!

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by jla1987

Funny, eh? Honestly though, I think I might prefer the duo to Gerrold. Don't let Zim know!

Your secret is safe with me. I like em' both personally.

[jla1987]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

Your secret is safe with me. I like em' both personally.

To me, the only good things that I've seen out of Gerrold are the Tribble episodes in TOS and TAS, and maybe the animated episode, "Bem." Other than that I've only seen an episode he wrote for The Real Ghostbusters and it was clear that he barely knew anything about Ghostbusters.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by jla1987

To me, the only good things that I've seen out of Gerrold are the Tribble episodes in TOS and TAS, and maybe the animated episode, "Bem." Other than that I've only seen an episode he wrote for The Real Ghostbusters and it was clear that he barely knew anything about Ghostbusters.

He's had a few good novels too.

[jla1987]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

He's had a few good novels too.

I read a portion of one, but it didn't hold me.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by jla1987

I read a portion of one, but it didn't hold me.

Try "The Who Folded Himself" your local libary might have it.

[jla1987]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

Try "The Who Folded Himself" your local libary might have it.

wiki'd it. Interesting premise Yet another book to add to my Must Read List.

Also, I've begun downloading the last Phase II episode. Isn't the next episode on the way soon?

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by jla1987

wiki'd it. Interesting premise Yet another book to add to my Must Read List.

Also, I've begun downloading the last Phase II episode. Isn't the next episode on the way soon?

When they get to it. It's all volenteer labor...so they have no set schedule.

[Commodore]

Originally Posted by horatio

As you have already pointed out, scripts and characters traits have been integrated into later Trek. I think it is hard to imagine how successful it would have been, but I doubt that it would have worked as well as TOS or the movies without Spock.

TNG seemed to work quite fine without Spock...


For the most part, Star Trek: Phase II was as much the precursor to TNG as it was to TMP (Gene Roddenberry--you ain't foolin' nobody!). As already mentioned, Ilia essentially became Troi, but also from the early draft notes of the series, you would have had "Commander Will Decker" (who later became Commander Will Riker), and the "Xon" character would have been pretty much Data--a person without emotions looking to embrace them. Of course, you would have McCoy and Scotty in their familar roles, but Kirk might have been depicted as the more seasoned veteran in comparison to the younger and more ambitious Decker, IMO...

[horatio]

Sorry, I have not been clear enough, I only think that the absence of the troika might have made it a bit weaker.
But as you have pointed out, many Phase II ideas were used in TMP and TNG and I definitely like the TMP / early TNG / Roddenberryesque atmosphere the show might have had.
If memory serves, TNG recycled some scripts and New Voyages / Phase II does the same.