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Old 09-25-2009, 09:12 PM
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Default So about that Black Hole...

Y'know, the gigantic one that ate the Narada from the inside-out in the film's finale. I don't remember this being discussed already, so I thought I'd bring it up.

What became of it? How far was it possibly from Earth or the Solar System in general? Is it likely that the detonation of the Sexyprise's warp core(s) right in its face effected it somehow? Is Starfleet gonna have to put up some sort of warning buoy to say, "yeah, be careful when approaching our solar system 'cuz there's this big sucker right here?"

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i think it collapsed , once and for all.

u know what?....i think ILM was paying homage to poltergeist movie,remember the shrinking of the house?
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um, If the first black hole created by the red matter sent the Narada back in time, why didn't the second black hole created by red matter do the same thing at the end of the movie?
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um, If the first black hole created by the red matter sent the Narada back in time, why didn't the second black hole created by red matter do the same thing at the end of the movie?

i think its explained in one of the prequel comics.Nero returns to the 24th century...if u remember the destruction sequence of the narada only the forward section with the claws was destroyed not the bridge,also the ship is borg,let the nanoprobes regenerate it
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Old 09-26-2009, 02:43 AM
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i think it collapsed , once and for all.
I didn't know black holes just collapsed in on themselves and disappeared.
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Nothing in the movie indicated that the first or second black hole collapsed or that the Narada would not have made another time-jump. In fact, the very risk of another time-jump made Kirk blow up the Narada instead of letting the black hole do the job.

By the way, the mass of Vulcan or the Narada don't constitute a very dangerous black hole (if you fly by it, the gravitation is as big as Vulcan's was, unless your distance to it is smaller than the diameter of Vulcan) and it takes probably some millions of years before it has eaten enough space dust to become a real danger.
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um, If the first black hole created by the red matter sent the Narada back in time, why didn't the second black hole created by red matter do the same thing at the end of the movie?
Because THIS black hole was formed INSIDE the Narada, and we saw it tear the ship apart from the inside out. Even if it did serve as another time-portal... all that would come out on the other side would be rubble and bodies, if even that.
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Because THIS black hole was formed INSIDE the Narada, and we saw it tear the ship apart from the inside out. Even if it did serve as another time-portal... all that would come out on the other side would be rubble and bodies, if even that.
Another bit of STXI crap physics.
Anything that goes through a black hole would be turned into vermicelli, no matter where the black hole was formed.

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Any form of Star Trek is chock full of make-believe science...
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