[I-Am-Zim]

Originally Posted by Captain Tom Coughlin

That sounds cool!

It is! I also made an extended version of "The Menagerie" with all the footage from "The Cage" that was left out edited in. It's almost 2 hours long. Looks good too with the remastered Cage footage edited in.

[Futureguy]

Originally Posted by Lady Vaako

Living part of your life (even if it's the most part) in the States doesn't make you American. Nowhere does it say that either James Doohan or William Shatner have their American citizenship. Sorry, but they are Canadians.

In the Star Trek Universe:

Was there a country "United States of America" or other "Countries" after WWIII, and before the forming of the Federation. I do not remember any mention of standing "countries", so to speak, though there were the implied "regions", allowing for Scotty to be "Scottish", Checkov to be "Russian"...etc.

Just curious.

[I-Am-Zim]

Originally Posted by Futureguy

In the Star Trek Universe:

Was there a country "United States of America" or other "Countries" after WWIII, and before the forming of the Federation. I do not remember any mention of standing "countries", so to speak, though there were the implied "regions", allowing for Scotty to be "Scottish", Checkov to be "Russian"...etc.

Just curious.

Hmmm. I don't remember exactly. In "The Cage", one of the scientists on Talos IV said he was from the American Continent Institute. Whether it was North or South America, who knows? There was also an episode of TNG where a 20th or 21st century ship was found and there was an American flag aboard that had more than 50 stars on it. I don't know if it was pre- or post-WWIII though. That would be interesting to research.

[kevin]

'The Royale' TNG Season 2.

It implies the USA existed as a political entity into the 21st Century before being absorbed into likely future Earth Governments.

'Encounter at Farpoint' talks about the United Earth Government which seems to gave been around by 2079. It might indicate the USA ceased to be a separate 'power' by that time and that may have been connected to all the wars that seem to riddle the 21st Century.

[starwarsrcks]

You know what the more I watch NuTrek I still really love it lots and lots hope that doesn't bother you but that's my opinion

ps I really enjoy the movie for what it is

[JamesTKirk1701]

Originally Posted by Lady Vaako

Living part of your life (even if it's the most part) in the States doesn't make you American. Nowhere does it say that either James Doohan or William Shatner have their American citizenship. Sorry, but they are Canadians.

So you're an immigration expert?

[I-Am-Zim]

Originally Posted by Lady Vaako

Living part of your life (even if it's the most part) in the States doesn't make you American. Nowhere does it say that either James Doohan or William Shatner have their American citizenship. Sorry, but they are Canadians.

Actually, yes it does. If you live in the USA for a certain period of time and take the various tests, etc, you can become an American citizen. Therefore, you are American at that point. No matter where you may be from "originally". But I have no idea if any of the non-American born Trek actors ever obtained citizenship. And what does it matter anyway? I don't really care where they are from. All I care about is that they portrayed my favorite space heroes in 79 episodes and 6 movies about my favorite sci-fi franchise! STAR TREK Baby!!!!!!

[starwarsrcks]

Well that's good that you prefer the 79 episodes and the actors that portrayed your heroes anyway am I wrong for liking both NuTrek and TOS.

[I-Am-Zim]

Originally Posted by starwarsrcks

Well that's good that you prefer the 79 episodes and the actors that portrayed your heroes anyway am I wrong for liking both NuTrek and TOS.

No. It's not wrong. You can like them both if you want. And that's great. I'm glad that people are able to reconcile the differences and enjoy both TrueTrek and NuTrek at the same time. I can't do it. I can't enjoy NuTrek because it's not true Star Trek to me. That's just my opinion and the way I feel about it. Your opinion differs and that is just fine. So carry on!

[Saquist]

"I will not carry a gun, Frank. When I got thrown into this war I had a clear understanding with the Pentagon: no guns. I'll carry your books, I'll carry a torch, I'll carry a tune, I'll carry on, carry over, carry forward, Cary Grant, cash and carry, carry me back to Old Virginia, I'll even 'hari-kari' if you show me how, but I will not carry a gun!"