[starwarsrcks]

Well maybe JJ Abrams just wanted to make Star Trek different does it have to be absolutely True Trek that you remembered years ago also did you think the actors did a rubbish job, just answer me that

[jla1987]

Zim, how can you say that you don't hate the film, when it massacre it for the stupidest reasons? Now, getting away from Zim's absolute madness...

The only cringe-worthy moment I can think of would have to be...actually I can't think of one. I was genuinely surprise when Vulcan was destroyed, but I didn't cringe.

[I-Am-Zim]

Originally Posted by starwarsrcks

Well maybe JJ Abrams just wanted to make Star Trek different does it have to be absolutely True Trek that you remembered years ago also did you think the actors did a rubbish job, just answer me that

That reminds me of an old saying. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". TOS wasn't broken. It didn't need fixing. TOS was just fine as it was and didn't deserve to be watered down and condensed the was it was in this movie. The fact that Star Trek was on a downhill slide the past 10 years or so had nothing to do with TOS. That was the fault of poor writing and lackluster storytelling.

And yes, if they were going to tread in the TOS era, it should have been "absloutely True Trek" that I remembered years ago, albeit "updated" so it would look more modern without completely losing the aesthetic of the original. That's what I wanted to see. Unfortunately, as Mick Jagger said, you can't always git what you want.

As far as the actors, none of them did a rubbish job. They were all quite good. Especially Karl Urban. In my opinion, he must have been channelling DeForrest Kelley. He was absoultely brilliant as bones. Chris Pine was okay as Kirk. The only time he really was James Kirk was in the very last scene when he walked off the turbolift onto the iBridge and said "Bones, buckle up!". In that one brief moment, he was the James Kirk I remembered. Zachary Quinto looked like Spock, but he wasn't as convincing to me. He was okay, but I didn't get the Spock vibe from him. Anton Yelchin was not bad as Checov. But the Russian accent was a bit comically overdone. John Cho make a decent Sulu but didn't get enough screen time. Simon Pegg had me worried. But he pulled off the Scotty role nicely. And Zoe Saldana was okay. Uhura was tragically underutilized in TOS and they didn't do much better with her character in STXI. But overall, they all did pretty well.

[JamesTKirk1701]

Originally Posted by I-Am-Zim

Nope. Not to me. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the movie. I did. I just expected more.

You and I both, I agree on everything you said too. The spock uhura thing was 2009 the year everything we loved as children goes to hell.

[jerhanner]

TOS was neither broken nor intact - it no longer existed except in our memories. But for those who don't like, or are threatened by change:

[kevin]

Originally Posted by JamesTKirk1701

You and I both, I agree on everything you said too. The spock uhura thing was 2009 the year everything we loved as children goes to hell.

I hope there's LOTS of Uhura/Spock in the sequel!!!!!!!!

[JamesTKirk1701]

Originally Posted by jerhanner

TOS was neither broken nor intact - it no longer existed except in our memories. But for those who don't like, or are threatened by change:

We're not threatened by change, it's very simple. Paramount can give the greenlight for abramstrek yet the true original trek exists and will do so forever.

[kevin]

Let's see - I didn't cringe at anything. There was lots of nods to the general silliness of TOS which was kinda appropriate as that was rather in tone. Although the mention of Admiral Archer was a rather out of place seeming nod to Enterprise. I'd have removed it.

It was a solid origin story and start - it needs to step up a gear for the sequel. But as a new foundation. It did the trick.

[Vincent Cain]

Waiting for Saint to appear in this thread.
I can only imagine his list....

[kevin]

Originally Posted by Vincent Cain

Waiting for Saint to appear in this thread.
I can only imagine his list....

That's why it's taking a while for him to add a post.