[celticarchie]

Originally Posted by horatio

Nice idea, but something does not compute, last movie and cliffhanger.

That's because if they had made the movie good and a cliffhanger, then it wouldn't have been the last movie.

The only reason there wasn't another TNG movie after Nemesis is because they made a duff-recycled script movie, and it didn't make Paramount a mountain of cash.

Plus, having the word "final" in your tagline is always a jinx. Remember we all thought The Final Frontier would be the last. They only got out of that one because they knew they could do better.

[horatio]

With the parting of Riker and Troi (or Mr.Troi and Mrs.Troi ), the movie was clearly designed as good-bye movie. I doubt that they would have continued with just 5 main characters in another potential TNG movie.

[kevin]

Yeah, I'm not entirely convinced that even if Nemesis had been a hit, there would have been another TNG film.

They were getting to the point of the problems with the TOS crew back in the late 80s - they were starting to look their ages.

[horatio]

When you watch a TNG episode and then a movie, you understand why Spiner did not want to continue to play Data.

[celticarchie]

Maybe someone should have shown Spiner a copy of the episode "Inheritance", in which Data meets the wife & assistant of Dr. Soong, essentially Data's mother!

In that episode Geordi has a revealing line about Data.

"Basically. She's a Soong-Type android, but everything about her is designed to fool you into thinking she's human..."

-Geordi, referring about Data's "Mother", and later he lets slip something about Data too.

"It's part of her aging program. Not only does she age in appearance like Data, but her vital signs change too."

[jla1987]

I didn't realize that the Earth-Romulan War was actually an idea that came about a year before Abrams got the job.

Via Wikipedia: In February 2005, following the financial failure of the tenth film, Star Trek Nemesis (2002), and the cancellation of the television series Star Trek: Enterprise, the franchise's executive producer Rick Berman and screenwriter Erik Jendresen were developing a new film entitled Star Trek: The Beginning. It was to revolve around a new set of characters, led by Kirk's ancestor Tiberius Chase. It would take place after Enterprise but before the original series, during the Earth-Romulan War.

[Commodore]

Originally Posted by jla1987

I didn't realize that the Earth-Romulan War was actually an idea that came about a year before Abrams got the job.

Via Wikipedia: In February 2005, following the financial failure of the tenth film, Star Trek Nemesis (2002), and the cancellation of the television series Star Trek: Enterprise, the franchise's executive producer Rick Berman and screenwriter Erik Jendresen were developing a new film entitled Star Trek: The Beginning. It was to revolve around a new set of characters, led by Kirk's ancestor Tiberius Chase. It would take place after Enterprise but before the original series, during the Earth-Romulan War.

Star Trek: The Beginning was the victim of the regime change/split at Paramount in 2006 and was promptly buried under a parakeet's cage lining afterwards.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by Commodore

Star Trek: The Beginning was the victim of the regime change/split at Paramount in 2006 and was promptly buried under a parakeet's cage lining afterwards.

Like so many Trek ideas.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by celticarchie

Maybe someone should have shown Spiner a copy of the episode "Inheritance", in which Data meets the wife & assistant of Dr. Soong, essentially Data's mother!

In that episode Geordi has a revealing line about Data.

"Basically. She's a Soong-Type android, but everything about her is designed to fool you into thinking she's human..."

-Geordi, referring about Data's "Mother", and later he lets slip something about Data too.

"It's part of her aging program. Not only does she age in appearance like Data, but her vital signs change too."

Yeah, the idea of his aging was never really explored in that manner, but it almost doesn't matter.

The one thing you can never get past is an actor who decides not to play the character anymore - unless you recast.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by kevin

Yeah, the idea of his aging was never really explored in that manner, but it almost doesn't matter.

The one thing you can never get past is an actor who decides not to play the character anymore - unless you recast.

And here, I allways assumed Data changed his appearence on purpose to "fit in" with his freinds.