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Old 08-05-2009, 11:08 AM
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I was thinking after it came up on another thread.

In TMP and the later films we saw two different spacedocks and some smaller ship only cradle docks in Earth orbit (TMP and Generations).

We saw the small Regula I size station in TMP and then the mammoth Spacedock of TSFS/TUC.

But when we hit TNG and the Enterprise went to Earth in 'Conspiracy' there was no trace or sight of it. Nor in 'BOBW'/First Contact when the Borg attacked

Then later, in 'Family' and Nemesis we get shown the cradle style spacedocks again.

So where did the 'big' Spacedock go to? Was it there but on the other side of the planet in TNG, or do you think it was moved out and became, say, Starbase 74 from the Bynars episode?
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:09 PM
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I think that the model was beautiful and definitely deserved to be used more often. But don't forget that in those pre-CGI days, filming models is expensive business, so just arbitrarily putting it into Earth's orbit, e.g. somewhere besides the repair station in "Family", might have been considered costly decoration.
Pitty that despite its large budget, not even ST09 showed a "crowed orbit".
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Old 08-05-2009, 01:12 PM
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But in First Contact there could have been an appearance, even in the background somewhere.

enter fanboy mode -

It could even have shown us if it had weapons and could have been helping attack the Borg Cube.

Could have been seen taking a hit, maybe the doors being blown in!

exit fanboy mode.
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Yeah, I was wonderig the same thing about Spacedock.
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Well, have you ever considered just how big the Earth is?

And then, 36000 m from the surface (geostationary orbit), the area with which one can be contained within is absolutely enormous!

So I think we can make the assumption that it will not always be in the same place as us as we follow starships into Earths orbit!

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It was a TARDIS Spacedock.
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Well, have you ever considered just how big the Earth is?

And then, 36000 m from the surface (geostationary orbit), the area with which one can be contained within is absolutely enormous!

So I think we can make the assumption that it will not always be in the same place as us as we follow starships into Earths orbit!

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These are merely my thoughts, however...
I did think about that, but it does seem then, in several TNG shots, that if it is there (along with others) then they all seem to be suspiciously on the other side of the Earth.

Also in the films.

They seem to appear and disappear as when needed. Which is likely the real answer, but seems rather random of them.
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It was a TARDIS Spacedock.
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I did think about that, but it does seem then, in several TNG shots, that if it is there (along with others) then they all seem to be suspiciously on the other side of the Earth.

Also in the films.

They seem to appear and disappear as when needed. Which is likely the real answer, but seems rather random of them.
It doesn't even need to be totally on the other side, remember how big this orbit is!

It could be in any shot in TNG or the movies, but merely be too far to be recognisable, or even visible!

Key thing here: Space is big, really big. Mindbogglingly big. You thought that a walk down to the chemist's was a long way, but that's peanuts to space!

Saying that it's absence is suspicious is a bit like sailing across the Pacific Ocean in a small sailing vessel and complaining that you didn't encounter any other small sailing vessels. The likelihood is that there is someone else in a small sailing vessel, but the likelihood of you encountering them...
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I would have loved to have seen a ship torn up by the orbital city.

Shoot....I'd love to see warp engines on that bad boy.
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