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Old 07-31-2009, 12:09 PM
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All of the scenes involving ships. The story itself never has interested me.
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:10 PM
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Isn't it interesting that the Bird of Prey and the Excelsior are the most long-lived and probably most-used ship design in Trek?
Cost-effectiveness!
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Most people don't remember this, but at the time there really was a belief by some fans that the Excelsior was going to replace the Enterprise...
Which makes the final scene in IV even better, because everyone expects the Excelsior and then we see the Excelsior... and then after you really think it's her - the 1701-A appears.
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:39 PM
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A nice little trick.
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Yeah, it truly was a surprise (something that probably could only have been done in the pre-internet days).

People genuinely thought that it would be:
"Space...the final frontier.
These are the voyages of the Starship Excelsior..."

For some reason, not many were thinking that there would be a new Enterprise (much less her being another Constitution-class), even though it seems so obvious now...
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The Scene where they talk about the Kobayashi Maru is setting sail for the Promised Land is so cheeky. Uhura's big scene showed the actress and character could have been so much more fun. The scene where the Enterprise dies - I actually cried at the time - it was as sad as when Liberator and Zen died in Blakes 7.
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The Whole Stealing the Enterprise sequence was my favourite part, closely followed by the entry into Spacedock.
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what did you think of spock coming back
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Old 09-26-2009, 12:29 PM
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Bit of a cop-out and a bit of a retcon over what Genesis was capable of. Although I really love TWOK and TSFS and think they story that they did do worked very well emotionally and gave the characters something meaningful to do -

The complainer in me thinks:

If they weren't serious about killing Spock they should not have done it. I CAN'T STAND people who have the rudeness to not STAY DEAD!!!!!!!!

At least when Kirk popped his clogs they didn't bring him back in the next film but made sure he was six feet under.

That's what I want to see when characters die.
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