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Old 07-28-2009, 08:23 PM
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What does everyone think of the above question?

Trek contemplates that humanity will come together, but only after at least one more world war, warp drive, and first contact.

Is Trek itself helping to move humanity forward through its connections with real space programs? Example: Michael Okuda's work for both.

I am currently undecided.
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:30 PM
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We are more likely to destroy ourselves over religion, or land or resources. Mankind cannot work together while there are so many divergent viewpoints.
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:34 PM
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We are more likely to destroy ourselves over religion, or land or resources. Mankind cannot work together while there are so many divergent viewpoints.
I can dig that point of view. But, what about the existence of the EU? Isn't that a counterexample?
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We are more likely to destroy ourselves over religion, or land or resources. Mankind cannot work together while there are so many divergent viewpoints.
I think not. If that were true, if we really hated each other that much over these things, we would have long since warred faction to faction until the last of our enemies were dust. Instead, we remain in a stalemate, an uneasy truce, broken by moments of violence until we realize the futility thereof and then, down the road somewhere, learn to forget it again. Eventually, we will realize we're all put her together on this one, weary little planet and become the brothers we were always meant to be. But it will take a terrible event, one that will threaten us all, our very existance as the human race to finally, and completely, drive that realization home. Then and only then, will we have a world fit to dwell in. A world where all men respect the basic human rights of every man, and every man respects the rights of all men.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:51 AM
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I believe in self-fulfilling prophecies or to be a bit more precise that you (whether you is an individual, an organization or all humankind) cannot improve yourself unless you believe you can do it and set it as goal.
Ideas shape our world more than anything else, so let's spread the idea of Trek.
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:50 AM
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I think we will eventually get there but I agree with MonsieurHood that something catastrophic will have to happen before we start working together - probably a nuclear war. I would say that, at present, most of humanity wants peace, we just don't know how to get there.

I'm not sure that an equivalent to warp speed would help in anyway except that it may divert our attention away from our petty little squabbles. There is no reason why people of different faiths and political opinions can't live in peace together.
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:52 AM
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As Chancellor Gorkon said, "I see we have a long way to go."
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Well, i guess we are, since WWIII seems kinda close.
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I can dig that point of view. But, what about the existence of the EU? Isn't that a counterexample?

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Old 07-29-2009, 05:21 AM
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As Chancellor Gorkon said, "I see we have a long way to go."

Isn't Gorkon a cheese? Gorkonzola?
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