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Yes, they should have gone further 7 11.86%
No, what they did worked 40 67.80%
No, they should have kept it more like TOS 11 18.64%
Other 1 1.69%
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:04 AM
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How so?
He was really into the film. It accomplished the objectives he saw as requirements.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:05 AM
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Well his post had none of that.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:09 AM
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Well his post had none of that.
They had a concern = they had an objective
They didn't care about anything beyond that = they were focused
They made money = they succeeded.
They succeeded = good film
Assumption in data analysis - he likes good fims
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:17 AM
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They had a concern = they had an objective
They didn't care about anything beyond that = they were focused
They made money = they succeeded.
They succeeded = good film
Assumption in data analysis - he likes good fims
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They should have gone farther -- and changed the names of the characters, the settings, the ship, and of the entire project, to something other than Star Trek.

I see it now as I saw it then: They wanted to make money off an established franchise, and didn't particularly give a good god damn about the franchise itself beyond that concern.
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Ok you got ALL that out of...
Out of the last sentence no less!!
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Out of the last sentence no less!!
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:22 AM
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Ok...no more Romulan Ale for you......
Dude, it really is in there! But yeah, I should hold off till like... 4pm my time.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:26 AM
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Dude, it really is in there! But yeah, I should hold off till like... 4pm my time.
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They should have gone farther -- and changed the names of the characters, the settings, the ship, and of the entire project, to something other than Star Trek.

I see it now as I saw it then: They wanted to make money off an established franchise, and didn't particularly give a good god damn about the franchise itself beyond that concern.
In this case the 'they' in question would be Paramount - who sought out Abrams and his team for the job and gave it to them to do what they saw fit with.

And you're right, Paramount wanted to turn a former earner back into the cash-cow it had once been in the past. They also would have lost the rights if they hadn't made a film at this point.

So money did drive it - but it's Paramount that wanted it.
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They should have gone farther -- and changed the names of the characters, the settings, the ship, and of the entire project, to something other than Star Trek.

I see it now as I saw it then: They wanted to make money off an established franchise, and didn't particularly give a good god damn about the franchise itself beyond that concern.
I do have to agree. I'm not saying it wasn't a good film. It was. It just wasn't a good Star Trek film. If it had not been called Star Trek, would it have made a difference? It was so far removed from anything in Trek that had come before, if the names were changed, it still would have accomplished the same goal of being a big budget summer blockbuster sci-fi action flick.
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