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Old 07-21-2009, 12:58 PM
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There are limits near cities and across bridges or in curves, but generally there is no speed limit.
accidents are rare though, aren't they?
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:25 PM
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When did you make your drivers license? In the 1950ies?

There is a general speed limit of 120 km/h on all german autobahns, everywhere. If you dont see a sign stating anything else, then 120 is the speedlimit, period.
I made it in 2004 and there is no speed limit. They are discussing to introduce one (SPD/Grüne vs. Union/FDP) since years.
Update: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:46 PM
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I made it in 2004 and there is no speed limit. They are discussing to introduce one (SPD/Grüne vs. Union/FDP) since years.
Update: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn
Well, if we want to go into the details, then you are right, there is no speed limit. But there is a Richtgeschwindigkeit, an advisory speed limit, a recommended maximum speed of 130 km/h (not 120 as I wrote earlier). To go faster then that speed means a court will take you at least partialy responsible for any accident you are involved in (joint liability).

So, effectively it is a speed limit.

http://bundesrecht.juris.de/babriges...018240978.html
http://www.ratgeberrecht.eu/verkehr-...indigkeit.html



PS: Seems we just confirmed two germany clishees at once - no speed limit on autobahns and an obsession with laws, regulations and paragraphs that contradict eachother and make your hair get grey and in the end you decide that whatever it is you do, its allways VERBOTEN.

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Old 07-21-2009, 03:24 PM
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wow...that's not something a country wants to be known for.
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The last place German men can be men and breathe the fresh air of freedom, Autobahn:



Traffic Jams - It may not be logical. Yet its inevitable and resistance is futile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wm-pZp_mi0
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Old 07-21-2009, 04:33 PM
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Traffic Jams - It may not be logical. Yet its inevitable and resistance is futile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wm-pZp_mi0
That's a very nice experiment. Seems as if traffic jams can occur without an apparent cause like a bottleneck situation (although there could not merely be construction work but also something like two truck drivers shortly blocking the street) and I guess that one might mathematically describe it with chaos theory, large amplification of small changes in the system.
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That's a very nice experiment. Seems as if traffic jams can occur without an apparent cause like a bottleneck situation (although there could not merely be construction work but also something like two truck drivers shortly blocking the street) and I guess that one might mathematically describe it with chaos theory, large amplification of small changes in the system.
Actually it could work, so that's why we'll never see it implimented..lol...
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