[FanWriter45]

Yeah, I agree. Best of the 80's, almost without debate! But I still think that 2001, or possibly The Andromeda Strain is the BEST science fiction film of all time... But I have pretty high standards. I consider most of what passes for science fiction these days to actually be science fantasy... (we've discussed this before on other threads, so I won't beat a dead horse here.)

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by FanWriter45

Yeah, I agree. Best of the 80's, almost without debate! But I still think that 2001, or possibly The Andromeda Strain is the BEST science fiction film of all time... But I have pretty high standards. I consider most of what passes for science fiction these days to actually be science fantasy... (we've discussed this before on other threads, so I won't beat a dead horse here.)

We'd have to include Forbidden Planet, The Day The Earth Stood Still, POTA (1968), Silent Running, and Idaho Transfer in that list too...

[cjopbj]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

You mean "Do Andriods Dream Of Electric Sheep?"

The book is SO different. Sort of like the "I Robot" book versus the movie. Completely different stories. I actually enjoyed Blade Runner better than "Do Androids...". It was so cutting edge when it first came out and Rudger Hauer was incredible.

[cjopbj]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

We'd have to include Forbidden Planet, The Day The Earth Stood Still, POTA (1968), Silent Running, and Idaho Transfer in that list too...

The first POTA ONLY! It was classic. The rest grew sillier and siller.

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by cjopbj

The first POTA ONLY! It was classic. The rest grew sillier and siller.

I agree, but keep in mind the budgets on each of the sequels got smaller and smaller. Not that it exuses them from making a good movie.

Shame niether verson of POTA follows the novel...

Originally Posted by cjopbj

The book is SO different. Sort of like the "I Robot" book versus the movie. Completely different stories. I actually enjoyed Blade Runner better than "Do Androids...". It was so cutting edge when it first came out and Rudger Hauer was incredible.

But when appealing to a mass audience, you have to go lowest common denominator. You can't have too highbrow a story, or most won't bother seeing it. You have to present things (even in a sci-fi setting) that people recognize.

Some examples from Trek-TOS Phasers look like guns, commincatiors like walky-talkies..the crew speaks modern English and act like people of today (Or the 60's in this case.)

[MonsieurHood]

What the heck is POTA?

[Samuel]

Originally Posted by MonsieurHood

What the heck is POTA?

Yea what he said. Prophesy of the Androgynous?

[Zardoz]

Originally Posted by MonsieurHood

What the heck is POTA?

Planet Of The Apes (POTA)

[cjopbj]

Originally Posted by Samuel

Yea what he said. Prophesy of the Androgynous?

What a great title!

[FanWriter45]

Originally Posted by Zardoz

We'd have to include Forbidden Planet, The Day The Earth Stood Still, POTA (1968), Silent Running, and Idaho Transfer in that list too...

Forbidden planet is rife with "convieneint bad science", (gravity generators, hyperdrive, a machine that can materialize your subconcious thoughts...)

Silent Running... where is the gravity coming from onboard those huge ships?

Planet of the Apes? The first movie isn't that bad, if you take into account genetic engineering of the Apes themselves, and the time dilation... but the sequels were way off... a "time curvature" wouldn't work both ways.

I haven't seen "Idaho Transfer"... any good?