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Old 07-14-2009, 08:15 PM
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Recently on another thread I kind of went off on the subject of drugs and addiction. It was implied (at least I thought it was) that Micheal Jackson was using drugs for escapism and recreation type purposes. Here is what I replied:

"Why do you assume MJ was using drugs as a form of escape or release? Prescription drug addiction is not always about "getting high". Sure, when teenagers steal their parents pain killers from the medicine cabinet, THAT is for getting high. But many, MANY people get addicted through using pain medication for legitimate reasons. The problem is when they start increasing doses in order to relieve pain, then as it progresses they need the drug just to feel normal.

Don't be so harsh when you don't have all the facts. Drugs, alcohol, and escapism in general were, and probably continue to be, prevalent in the music and artistic worlds, but don't assume Micheal Jackson was using drugs for fun or to get high.

I was not addicted to prescriptions drugs, but someone very close and dear to me was. She is still struggling to stay off the drugs. She was hurt in a bad accident and was lucky to survive. Now she has a bad knee that needs replacing and a pelvis that never healed correctly after being broken. She suffers from chronic pain. I saw her get VERY bad with pain meds, to the point she would take an entire month's prescription in less than a week. The rest of the time she would buy off the street and spend about $20-$30 a day until she could refill the prescription from her doctor. I found out because money was missing from the bank account. I intervened and notified her doctor. At first she was angry with me. Then the doctor's cut her off from pain meds and put her on other drugs that are supposed to help with withdrawals. She suffered greatly for over two weeks with BAD withdrawals. After the withdrawals subsided she was surprised to find the pain she was feeling was more manageable than she thought. It was the addiction to the drugs that had her so messed up.
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I want to make it clear that I witnessed a good person fall into the vicious cycle of using more and more pain medication in order to make herself feel normal. Her injuries were the result of a very bad motor vehicle accident and she was lucky to have survived, in fact, there were more than a couple of occasions in the hospital when it appeared she would not survive. She was left with chronic pain.

Anyone else ever personally deal with drug users? I am specifically interested in prescription drug use. I don't think I could be sympathetic for a person that has no issues with chronic pain and then gets hooked on things like meth or heroin. When I saw the news about Micheal Jackson it appears it may possible he did suffer from a similar downward spiral as the person in my story did. I felt bad for him, hence my reply above. Anyone care to offer their opinion?
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:29 PM
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I knew a dude that was in the medical field and got messed up on the Special **** they keep in the hospital. The week he got busted, an anestheisiologist and some other doctor got caught too. This was in a major hospital.

So yeah, that stuff is insidious. Mainly because it's made in a lab.
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Old 07-14-2009, 08:54 PM
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When working as an RN in an orthopedic/neuro ward, addiction/dependence was always a concern with long-term patients. Our docs would be very careful about narcotics prescribed and how often the patients requested them. We knew what the average patient needed, and if someone was still requesting the narcotics, we had to determine if it was due to a complication, they were afraid they would be in too much pain on a less powerful med, etc.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:06 PM
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Yup. Seen it and stuff like Oxycontin can mess people up. Also, dont just blindly assume doctors know what they are doing. A neighbor friend of mine was addicted to oxy in a big way and his doc just kept filling the orders. Really high dosages also and I mentioned to him that I thought he was being given way way way too much. He changed doctors and the new one couldnt believe he was prescribed as much as he was. Took awhile for him to get off of it but he is much better today. They dont call the stuff "hillbilly heroin" for nothing.
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Old 07-14-2009, 09:34 PM
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I can relate to this thread very easily. During my tenure with cancer I built up a tolerance to Oxy, and it was hell trying to get off it. Since then I've sworn to never use opiate pain meds again. After my recent appendix removal both my doctor and I decided to explore some more... natural options. Needless to say this was much healthier for me, and I definatly did not build a tolerance or addiction of any kind the way I did with Oxy.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:28 AM
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Ok, pretend you are famous, and no one will say NO to you.

I don't fault stars for this, I fault the people around them.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:42 AM
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I have always had the tendency to 'space out' on very low doses of pain meds. Growing up as I did in a house with a terminal and chronic cancer patient (Grandma); I watched as she developed a tolerance to her meds. Her doctors would switch her meds every time they saw her, just to keep her from getting addicted. Then, having watched my Dad being an alcholic as a child, I realized it would be very easy for me to develop an addiction. Because of all these life experiences, I have never taken anything unless I thought I really needed to... and I usually take only half of what I am prescribed. I have felt the craving to up my meds... but I have never given in to it. I know I would get addicted if I let myself take them even under the doctors supervision, so I usually tell them to give me the least amount of whatever they think will work the least, and if I'm still in pain, too bad.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:50 AM
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I have always had the tendency to 'space out' on very low doses of pain meds. Growing up as I did in a house with a terminal and chronic cancer patient (Grandma); I watched as she developed a tolerance to her meds. Her doctors would switch her meds every time they saw her, just to keep her from getting addicted. Then, having watched my Dad being an alcholic as a child, I realized it would be very easy for me to develop an addiction. Because of all these life experiences, I have never taken anything unless I thought I really needed to... and I usually take only half of what I am prescribed. I have felt the craving to up my meds... but I have never given in to it. I know I would get addicted if I let myself take them even under the doctors supervision, so I usually tell them to give me the least amount of whatever they think will work the least, and if I'm still in pain, too bad.
I've ben down that road with family and freinds more than once. I think if you are dying from cnacer, addiction the least of your problems.

Responcible med taking is alot diffrent from abuse, since you are so aware of that, you are fine.
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Grandma was dying, we just didn't know when it would be...the docs gave her six months, she went thirteen years...but it showed me just how easy it would be to think that you needed to take more, instead of taking something different.
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Grandma was dying, we just didn't know when it would be...the docs gave her six months, she went thirteen years...but it showed me just how easy it would be to think that you needed to take more, instead of taking something different.
That is the exception. Cancer is so the exception to so many things.
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