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I feel generally happy because Trek has been reinvigorated. 43 93.48%
I feel generally sad because it will be so many days before the sequel. 3 6.52%
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:58 AM
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It's been 64 days since the official release date of the current Star Trek movie. It's hard to believe that it's been that long. That said, in all likelihood, the next Trek movie won't be released until more than a year from now.

Now that you've had months to think about it, do you feel generally happy or sad about these facts?

Please take this pleasant poll and feel free to add your comments.

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Old 07-12-2009, 10:19 AM
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I'm in the middle. I am really looking forward to the next movie, only because I need an injection of Trek every now and then. Yes, I intended that to sound like I am an addict, because I AM!! On the flip side I was not really happy with the way the Trek universe was thrown out and replaced. I really do miss the things I was very familiar with. I hate most of the new sets and the props seem gimmicky rather than cool. I really never thought warp cores and beam type phasers were that important, but without them this Trek does not feel like Trek. Compound that with what I found to be a poor story that lacked any depth, and the movie only LOOKED like Trek but did not have the "feel", not for me anyway.

So with the sequel the writers have an opportunity to bring some of the "deeper feel" to Trek and to make the story a good one. I will be happy if that heppens, but I will still hate the stupid location sets and the lack of familiar effects.
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I'm in the middle. I am really looking forward to the next movie, only because I need an injection of Trek every now and then. Yes, I intended that to sound like I am an addict, because I AM!! On the flip side I was not really happy with the way the Trek universe was thrown out and replaced. I really do miss the things I was very familiar with. I hate most of the new sets and the props seem gimmicky rather than cool. I really never thought warp cores and beam type phasers were that important, but without them this Trek does not feel like Trek. Compound that with what I found to be a poor story that lacked any depth, and the movie only LOOKED like Trek but did not have the "feel", not for me anyway.

So with the sequel the writers have an opportunity to bring some of the "deeper feel" to Trek and to make the story a good one. I will be happy if that heppens, but I will still hate the stupid location sets and the lack of familiar effects.
The middle -- that's a perfectly rational place to be. I do think that many people are happy, generally, however.

My actual feelings are generally happy with a slight touch of sadness that it will be so long before the next sequel. However, I think that for me the happiness at Trek's success most often overwhelms any sadness at the wait.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:33 AM
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The middle -- that's a perfectly rational place to be. I do think that many people are happy, generally, however.

My actual feelings are generally happy with a slight touch of sadness that it will be so long before the next sequel. However, I think that for me the happiness at Trek's success most often overwhelms any sadness at the wait.
A part of me, a rather big part, feels like the new movies success is only proof that Trek has been sold out. Action, lens flares, more action, a little boob and panty shot, shaky cam, more lens flares, action, BOOM!, pew pew pew, and more action. THAT is what I fear Trek has become simply to make money in theaters. I wore the "nerd" badge proudly. Now I feel like JJ and company have done everything in their power to make sure this NuTrek bares no resemblance to past Trek. I actually think the next movie will be more of the same and I fear it will be just as shallow. If so, I won't even bother to watch the 3rd movie until it comes out on DVD/BluRay. I really hope we get another series because TV is where Trek's soul lay, for me anyway.
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A part of me, a rather big part, feels like the new movies success is only proof that Trek has been sold out. Action, lens flares, more action, a little boob and panty shot, shaky cam, more lens flares, action, BOOM!, pew pew pew, and more action. THAT is what I fear Trek has become simply to make money in theaters. I wore the "nerd" badge proudly. Now I feel like JJ and company have done everything in their power to make sure this NuTrek bares no resemblance to past Trek. I actually think the next movie will be more of the same and I fear it will be just as shallow. If so, I won't even bother to watch the 3rd movie until it comes out on DVD/BluRay. I really hope we get another series because TV is where Trek's soul lay, for me anyway.
It might be that after the next sequel, we will have a TOS/TAS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT-type television series. Then we'll have the best of both worlds (pun definitely not intended). I love the various television versions of Trek, too!
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I guess the best word for the way I feel is: "apprehensive"
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It might be that after the next sequel, we will have a TOS/TAS/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT-type series. Then we'll have the best of both worlds (pun definitely not intended).
I hope so.
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Old 07-12-2009, 10:54 AM
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I'm happy with the current state of affairs regarding the new film.

I think it's been made much more contemporary in terms of some filming styles that were used and I think that's just a reflection of 2009. There was a definite stylistic rut that the last few films displayed. That was that it belied the TV roots. They didn't feel like movies.

Star Trek's story and thematic very best work may be on TV, but I want a movie to look like a movie and have that visual scope and scale. This film had that in abundance, and the last couple did not. They were TV in scope, without good scripts.

Which brings me to the script. It felt like Star Trek for me. Bearing in mind there a couple of different Star Trek's floating about. There's your 'City on the Edge of Forever' style Trek, and there's your 'Galileo 7' style Trek.

Intelligent vs entertaining (but a little less brainy). This movie, for me, falls into the latter category. It's very fun and involving, engaging and likeable. But like many Star Trek films before it, particularly the TNG outings, it left it's brain behind along the way. That said, multiple viewings impove it significantly from the very first one. I can genuinely say I enjoyed it more each time I saw it the cinema. It was very funny in places (humour is a Trek staple as well), the actors were nearly all spot on, and I never had any problem with the destruction of Vulcan. I liked the creation of the alternate as an effective way of opening up new avenues.

Since the point of Star Trek was to go 'where no one had gone before' it seems fitting that that's the situation they have created now that we are in new territory. I spent a lot of time watching TOS after seeing the film, and I totally felt the connection to the spirit of the show and characters. The execution is just 2009 vs 1965.

I still find it intriguing no one cares about Romulus but, hey, I guess Trek fans are not supposed to care about them?

And I've never gone to see any Trek film 4 times, so something is working on a basic level.

I know the change to set design, props etc didn't go down well with some. Well, for me these are not critical aspects. Given also the realisation that we were dealing with an alternate, it didn't matter to me anyway if photon torpedoes looked the same or not. Or the Warp effect (which, let's face it, got altered more than once in the previous films anyway). I maintain the highest regard for the industrial look as a smart visual decision, that dramatically improved the visual look of the ship.

So, I think Star Trek has been brought into the 21st Century in a more than adequate fashion.

The stage has been set for the new adventures. As for me, the whole point of the film was getting the crew to the bridge I can get over the rushed promotions and the weakness of Nero as he wasn't really the point of the film.

Certainly there is a good skeleton of rebooted Star Trek to hang some meat and bones on, and I would hope that the next film will begin to do that in some fashion.

Overall, I give the film 8.5/10. And it's second on my favourite Star Trek film list after the joint first of TWOK/TSFS.
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It was Christmas in May - wonderful and unexpected. A gift that I'm glad to receive but know may never be truly duplicated.

Happy, Happy, Happy. Plus, I have a new actor to watch as his career unfolds. How great is that!
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I just keep revelling in the Movie, and in the new ST Universe.

Just think of the years of looking forward to and living through ST in the present, as the new ST universe unfolds.

Thanks to JJ for that.
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