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Old 05-29-2009, 07:07 AM
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Question So, Was He Human, or What?

Do we have a definitive answer on whether the motorcycle officer who stopped the young James Tiberius Kirk was human or android?

I tend to think he would be an android, since we know that, by the 23d Century, android technology hasn't yet advanced to the level of Data. The android's mannerisms seem more human than Data's, and since androids who are more human-like would presumably be more advanced than Data, the officer probably wouldn't be an android.

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"In my mind, there is a person under there," said Orci. "But there is nothing in the movie that says one way or another. But in reading some of Roddenberry's thoughts and dissertations about 'Star Trek,' there was always a hesitance to deny the human spirit and deny the human side of it. There is a small part of me that thinks an android cop would be against Roddenberry's instincts. However, Mr. Data is clearly a central canon figure, so you can argue it either way. I don't think there is anything in the movie that commits it one way or the other. It is in the eye of the beholder."
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I've said it before, he was a Metal Beastie wannabe!
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Thanks for the great answers!

If there is a person under the mask, however, that brings forth the question: Why was he wearing such a mechanical-appearing mask? Was it supposed to be protective? What does it say about the Federation that its police officers look like androids?
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I'd say human. The outfit protects identity, and looks intimidating for law enforcement purposes.
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If there is a person under the mask, however, that brings forth the question: Why was he wearing such a mechanical-appearing mask? Was it supposed to be protective? What does it say about the Federation that its police officers look like androids?
To my knowledge the Federation doesn't have anything to do with local police enforcement. I can't see why it would.

As for the mask, high-tech 23rd century protection.

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If it was an android, it was far less advanced then data. Something programed to do traffic stops and so forth.
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If you read the novelization of the movie, he is definitely human and the facemask is protective. On the inside of it is a viewing screen (and hopefully air conditioning)....
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If you read the novelization of the movie, he is definitely human and the facemask is protective. On the inside of it is a viewing screen (and hopefully air conditioning)....
Makes sense. That way he/she/it could go into any climate, or situation.
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It's a face shield with a mask speaker (in the novel).
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