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Old 05-22-2009, 11:15 AM
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Exactly. Sulu liking swords goes way back to TOS. Some people either have a very short memory, are ignorant of the reference, or are just immature enough to make a unjustified Star Wars reference just to piss off others.
plus at least Sulu got to do something in TREK other than get captured a lot
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:21 AM
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The short answer is NO, It goes out of its way to destroy the vision of Roddenberry simply to appeal to the unthinking, but paying public out for a shoot-em up in space story. And i use the term story loosely. I fully expect the next movie to feature newScotty's little green 'companion' (a green Daggit?) taking over in either engineering or the bridge. WARNING, WARNING, DANGER Will Robinson...
This is exactly how I feel.

To the people that have replied stating this is snobbery or elitism, well... it is whatever you want to call it. If Transformers 2's numbers aren't proof enough that general movie audiences don't really care about a good story (remember all the criticisms?) or even want to think while being entertained, then I sure don't know what will convince you otherwise.

I will also say that it is very likely not all of Trek, in it's various forms, would NOT have fallen under the ideal GR template. I didn't dislike this new movie because I thought GR would not have liked it. I felt like it was just a roller coaster ride but nothing more.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:40 AM
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I have to keep repeating this, but I just do not get why TREK fans are constantly bringing up STAR WARS - have they ever even seen those movies.

ABSOLUTELY TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENRES.

MAYBE IT'S LASER ENVY
Actually, ummmmm...no. They're exactly the same genre. Space opera. They're both definitely, definitely space opera. Epic stories set in space that focus on character interaction and on romantic adventure (in the sense of romantic as "imbued with or dominated by idealism, a desire for adventure, chivalry"). Both are pretty much soft sci-fi franchises within the space opera genre.

At any rate, I think XI keeps the franchise very much character driven and only hope it continues in that vein.
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:41 AM
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And plenty of garbage to rewatch as well

(now, where's Voyager's last episode.......)
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And Chekov got to do more than scream!!
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:06 PM
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It wouldn't be Trek if it were not goofy from time to time.
There's goofy and then there's just plain...........well, y'know!
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:52 AM
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I think it is a different modern style of Trek and a sweet film it is.
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Old 11-15-2009, 05:30 AM
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It wouldn't be Trek if it were not goofy from time to time.
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