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Old 05-20-2009, 11:30 AM
Futureguy Futureguy is offline
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[quote=delliott101;203327]Here's my take....

This movie takes place in a parallel universe apart from the Prime Trek universe from the beginning... BEFORE Nero shows up. Why?

Look at the Kelvin. Wayyy more advanced than ANYTHING we saw from the earliest days of TOS. I think this parallel universe branched out as a result of the events of First Contact... but even THAT movie may have been set in a parallel universe (the Prime Enterprise E and the Borg travelled back in time to this other universe).

This new "prime" universe was the one featured in Star Trek: Enterprise and continues into this new film. The altered timeline affects the reality of this different universe. Why were the events of First Contact and Enterprise set in this other universe?

A few reasons... but the biggest reason is Zephrane Cochrane. He's not Cochrane of Alpha Centuri, as mentioned in TOS episode "Metamorphosis" -- doesn't act like him or look like him. This is an alternate Earth-bound Cochrane who "discovers" warp drive. I quote "discovers" because the Vulcans had it already and certainly other races. The TOS Cochrane sounds like he discovered it first... before any other race.

Anyway, ST:Enterprise is a direct offshoot of the First Contact time line. NOTHING I could fine in Enterprise even suggests that it takes place in the same timeline as the other series (even the finale of Enterprise is in dispute canon-wise). The look of the Kelvin, the uniforms, the equipment, etc all appears to be a logical progression from Enterprise... if we look at "The Cage" and "Where No Man Has Gone Before", as well as TOS as a whole, there is NO WAY Starfleet would have progressed from NX-01. It would have been a step backwards design-wise.

I can agree with that. Your arguement gives a plausable timeline for this alternate universe/timeline from "First Contact" onward.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:36 AM
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It's really all just an attempt to justify the visual differences because the shows were made 35 years apart.

It's not complicated - they could never in a million years have made Enterprise less advanced than TOS without still looking more advanced than it.

1960s vs 2000s.

It could never be done. The rest is just trying to rationalise the reality they were made too far apart to work out.
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Old 05-20-2009, 02:48 PM
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I was also thinking... fan projects like Phase II and the rest can also be viewed as being set in a parallel universe, too...
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