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Old 05-20-2009, 05:14 PM
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Actually, I tend to think being a major hit points to a film's mediocrity.
makes no sense whatsoever.
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As much as I hate to say it, no Rick Berman. I think they got so tied up in trying to get everything "right" that they had no time for story telling. This, and I was very opposed to it at first, was like watching the original show. It had that "feel" to it that I had not felt in years. I wanted to continue to watch it, not felt I had to. It was like coming home again. Sure TNG had some great episodes, but it all got to technical with no feel. They couldn't see the woods for the trees.
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:21 PM
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Actually, I tend to think being a major hit points to a film's mediocrity
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Ignore that type of mentality, Jim. Contrarians are the absolute worst people to try to reason with.
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I know that some old school BSG fans have put this movie well above the new BSG simply because, in their view, the characters seemed truer to their original series counterparts (or at least evolved into them over the course of 126 minutes), and that the characters were actually likable, as opposed to the new BSG characters, who seemed constantly ensnared in dysfunction and throat cuttery. (Personally, I love the new BSG, but I just thought I'd share the views of some of my old school BSG friends.)

As for me, for pure entertainment, yes, the new Trek is right up there with the new BSG! And in the end, that's all that ANY movie or show is about...entertainment. Lofty ideals, action, and hamhanded preaching be damned.
No way.
I'm not a fan of BSG and I know this movie fell WELL short of it.
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I honestly believe it's a repeat of what happen when the first Star Trek motion picture came to the screen. There hadn't been a Star Trek in years and years, much like in the present time, and when The Motion Picture hit the screen people went nuts, up untill this current film, The Motion Picture had been the most financially sucessfull of all the Trek films, even though, and I appologize to anyone who trully loves TMP, it was in all honesty not a very good film. Then along came Trek II...a movie that catapulted Trek into the annals of scifi movie greatness, but did not do as well in the box office as TMP. Why? if it was the better film? Simple, the surge of intrest and anticipation that had preceeded TMP was subsiding.

I'm personally waiting for history to repeat itself and hoping that nu-Trek II will blow our minds and bring many of us back to what trek can be.
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I honestly believe it's a repeat of what happen when the first Star Trek motion picture came to the screen. There hadn't been a Star Trek in years and years, much like in the present time, and when The Motion Picture hit the screen people went nuts, up untill this current film, The Motion Picture had been the most financially sucessfull of all the Trek films, even though, and I appologize to anyone who trully loves TMP, it was in all honesty not a very good film. Then along came Trek II...a movie that catapulted Trek into the annals of scifi movie greatness, but did not do as well in the box office as TMP. Why? if it was the better film? Simple, the surge of intrest and anticipation that had preceeded TMP was subsiding.

I'm personally waiting for history to repeat itself and hoping that nu-Trek II will blow our minds.

Then it's one HELL of a repeat. It's already made more money than any Star Trek movie combined and is also one of the best reviewed movies of the decade.

I like your perspective on it. Although I think this movie blows TMP and half the other Star Trek movies out of the water entirely.

And if you are right and this film is more along the lines of the mentality of the buzz surrounding TMP, then you KNOW the next movie has the potential to be fantastic. Just like Dark Knight was for Batman Begins, just like TWOK was for TMP.

The only difference now is that a hell of a lot more people are gonna watch Star Trek XII when it comes out in 2011. And that's good news all around.
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