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Old 06-19-2009, 03:43 PM
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I do like Chris Pine as Kirk. I mean he was portrayed as this cocky smart guy. I mean he is young and soon enough he will mature becoming a more responsible Captain. I do like that he was humorous and wasn't too serious. I mean when he entered Starfleet he was young and it was kinda like college. So its not a suprise that he would be sleeping with a woman and being arogent.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:29 PM
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So its not a suprise that he would be sleeping with a woman and being arogent.
As Chef says: There is a time and a place for everything. It's called college.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:56 AM
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But would you see Shatner as an arrogant captain
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:43 AM
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But would you see Shatner as an arrogant captain
In some respects yes.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:46 AM
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I see Shatner's Kirk as less arrogant, more quietly smug and self-satisfied. In TOS he rarely was presented with a situation in which he ultimately lost, and so had little to temper his sense of himself as being fallible.

If we had seen him lose 'big' once in a while it would have punctured that air a little bit and humanised him a little more.

But we didn't really see that until TWOK and TSFS - maybe that's a part of why I like them so much. We finally see him knocked down to rock bottom, so he has to pick himself up again and get by with wounds weighing him down.
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Old 07-30-2009, 10:57 AM
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It's not like ShatKirk is a particularly consistent character:

We have the concept of the bookwormish Kirk who has been deeply affected by the executions on Tarsus IV, who seems to have adopted a playfulness on the surface (since he is in space / since he is a captain) to cope with that all.
This trait is established in first seasons episodes: Where No Man Has Gone Before, Balance of Terror (Pike-style Hamlet moment!), The Conscience of the King.

We also have Shatner's interpretation of the character that dominates in the later part of TOS which is actually more in sync with PineKirk.
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Kirk in The Trouble with Tribbles was similar to Pine Kirk.
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:58 AM
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Getting use to new actors in iconic roles is a difficult thing. The best we can hope for, as fans, is that the new actors continue to make the characters as likeable and fantastic as we remember them. I think Pine and the rest of the cast pulled it off beautifully. When I left the theater, I was loving James Kirk, Spock, Sulu, Uhura, Scotty and Chekov (and Pike). That's basically all you can ask for from a new cast. These actors have brought interest to non-Trek fans to check out the original TOS series, and the original cast. That's quite an accomplishment, and it's a great compliment to the original crew.

I was going to add to this thread...but you just summed it up beautifully! So..."Ditto"!
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It's not like ShatKirk is a particularly consistent character:

We have the concept of the bookwormish Kirk who has been deeply affected by the executions on Tarsus IV, who seems to have adopted a playfulness on the surface (since he is in space / since he is a captain) to cope with that all.
This trait is established in first seasons episodes: Where No Man Has Gone Before, Balance of Terror (Pike-style Hamlet moment!), The Conscience of the King.

We also have Shatner's interpretation of the character that dominates in the later part of TOS which is actually more in sync with PineKirk.
Again, well said H!
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It's not like ShatKirk is a particularly consistent character:
This is off topic but since its Shat character....

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/shatners-pa...s-the-web--496
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