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Old 02-21-2008, 11:20 AM
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This was the only time messing with a film made it better, I can remember.

No longer will this be known as Star Trek:The Snooze Picture.

It t was finnally nice to see the film done right, and Robert Wise get to complete his vision without a deadline.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:11 PM
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I will always remember on the original version when Kirk is in that spacesuit when he was going after Spock. And then his suit changed all of a sudden. The directors cut was extremely well done.
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It took what was a rough cut of the film and made it complete. I truely belive Wise finnaly got to finish this film.
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:11 AM
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I liked the original version, but you could tell some things were not really edited well. Being rushed for release caused this, but it was still a great movie for its time.

But the directors edition was seamless, and the added visual effects only made the film better.
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:32 AM
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I disagree with you on this one num nums. TMP pre DC wasn't that great of a film, even for it's time. I'm no SW fan, but have to admit Empire Strikes Back was better overall.

Thna there was the 1983 TV version with 15 extra mins. (that din't help, or hinder, the film) that became TMP on video for a long time, until the DC.

I think with a better overall script, and not a reused Star Trek Phase II pilot script, the time constaints, the effects problems, this film could have been glorious.
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The writing for TMP was an interesting affair in the fact that many of the final scenes were worked over by Nimoy to add a more, episode like quality to the film. There are many other instances in the original film (1979) cut that were reworked to make Kirk seem less, stressed, even angry. The best one is when V'ger has just launched it's devices around Earth and Kirk confronts the Ilia probe, getting totally in her face, almost threatening to deck her! The original book by Gene Roddenberry, from the original idea from Alan Dean Foster (In thine own image) paints a very frustrated and souless Kirk, missing his life and commrades and this is very evident in the original release. You always got the sense that the stress of being Starfleet's youngest captain, in charge of the flagship bore heavily on him, especially in the original series and I was very interested to see this brought forth to TMP. Toning it down for the Director's cut was a bit of a disapointment, but I guess that is what Laserdisc and VHS are for.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:18 AM
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Well originall TMP was a Phase II pilot, and Spock was not in it. He had to be written into the story.

Yes, the DC definatelty makes Kirk not look like such a jerk.

I heard that Gene did not actually write the novelization, that it was a ghost writer and they put his name on it to sell copies, but I have never seen anything to confirm, or deny this.

I liked seeing the whole of V'Ger, the pacing wasn't so slow....

I hear alot of people compare this to 2001. 2001 was a true masterpeice of it's time, and revolutionized filmaking. As much of a hardcore Trek fan as I am, I can say that TMP is NO 2001 by any strech.
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It was a comple bore fest notheless.
I don't know what GR was thinking...who would want to see that?
Llike most he's disconnected with the audience....he wasn't a story teller.
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I twas the push to get it into theatres, it had allreayd been booked into theatres before any filming ever began. Paramount made it CLEAR it was to be in then.

Using the Phase II pilot as a movie script was a bad move. But with the time constraints, they had no choice. Wise did alot with a crappy script he'd been given.

GR did not write what became TMP, Alan Dean Foster did, blame him. But between David Livingston and GR having a rewriting style p**sing contest, soemtimes whole scenes would change 2 times a day! Imagine the poor actors!!!
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Old 03-12-2008, 07:02 AM
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In the bonus features he talkes about writting the moviw by himself over just a couple of weeks, maybe 3 weeks.
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