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Old 02-20-2008, 05:30 AM
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I'm with the "No Kill Jadzia" group
There HAD to be a better way...recalled to trill, or SOMEthing....
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:43 AM
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I would've killed Jadzia in Change of Heart. Would've shocked the audience and then I could've brought Ezri in sooner.
It might have worked...but I think that would have created a whole mess of problems with the Worf character. Worf would have at that point resented Starfleet and his duty to it for requiring he let his wife die to complete his mission. That bitterness would have ruined the character IMHO.

That her death was senseless is important in how they killed her.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:18 AM
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more ferengi!!!! well. maybe not, but I do love me some ferengi!
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:37 AM
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I'm with the "No Kill Jadzia" group
There HAD to be a better way...recalled to trill, or SOMEthing....
Jadzia dies... Hmm... I shouldn't have read this thread. I'm just now getting into DS9. Well, hope they give her a good death.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:22 PM
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The fact that Jadzia married Worf and then was killed! It was all an insult to her character! WHY did she have to be killed off???????
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:09 PM
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Cowman: Either way, he was a threat to Sisko and the Bajorans.
Yes but the caliber of the threat was diminished in my mind when he went crazy. I think it was an insult to the intelligence of the audience that they had to sink to such a level. One thing Star Trek always did wonderfully was pose morally difficult questions; stopping the guy you've worked with in the past whose motives are complex was very Trek, stopping the crazy guy was a tired and lazy cliché IMO.

For example when Ziyal asks Kira if she thinks Dukat is evil and mentions that he had good reasons for doing the things he did when Kira mentions how what's really scary is that a sane, intelligent person can find a way to justify any act. That was terrifying and deep. But a crazy guy looking for revenge? What's so special about that? A threat yes but not nearly as interesting IMO.
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I would've kept Dukat and Kai Winn at arms length!!
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:47 AM
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I would've kept Dukat and Kai Winn at arms length!!
Well Winn certainly, it's like everyone forgot about In The Hands Of The Prophets when she became Kai.

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Old 02-22-2008, 11:50 AM
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Yes but the caliber of the threat was diminished in my mind when he went crazy. I think it was an insult to the intelligence of the audience that they had to sink to such a level. One thing Star Trek always did wonderfully was pose morally difficult questions; stopping the guy you've worked with in the past whose motives are complex was very Trek, stopping the crazy guy was a tired and lazy cliché IMO.

For example when Ziyal asks Kira if she thinks Dukat is evil and mentions that he had good reasons for doing the things he did when Kira mentions how what's really scary is that a sane, intelligent person can find a way to justify any act. That was terrifying and deep. But a crazy guy looking for revenge? What's so special about that? A threat yes but not nearly as interesting IMO.
And that is why, I love the pre-insane Dukat. I would sometimes feel
bad for him when Kira was being a b!tchface to him.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:04 PM
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And that is why, I love the pre-insane Dukat. I would sometimes feel
bad for him when Kira was being a b!tchface to him.
Yup Dukat was definitely interesting when he was walking that line between antagonist and protagonist, and occasionally even bordering on likeable but never quite easy in the role of "good guy". Those kind of villains are always better than your psychotic megalomaniacs who are really just out to destroy the world. (Although megalomaniacs can make for a fun story.)
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