[kevin]

How is it a 'fake' Federation Starship exactly? Cause TOS never told us there was a USS Kelvin before?

[Kallen]

Can anyone please tell me what is different (concept wise) between this Abrams alternate timeline and the alternate universe first created in TOS "Mirror, Mirror"??
I mean, as far as i can see, there is zero. In both cases, there was an event that caused the new timeline to diverge from our original timeline. According to Enterprise's "In a Mirror, Darkly", it seemed that the divergence was created when Cochran killed the Vulcan during First Contact (tho I believe that the divergence happened before this point in time), whereas in the new film the divergence happens when the Narada appears and the Kelvin is destroyed. Otherwise, the conceept is the same and perfectly canon.

[Kallen]

Originally Posted by Magnum

I don't think she had time to get back to Earth even if they were not attacked.

Actually, I am going to agree with Magnum on this one. AS I recall, she was already in sickbay and in labor when the Narada appeared..... Now, it COULD have been premature labor and they were going to give her meds to halt it....dunno

[kevin]

I think it's a grey area - in VOY HOME Kirk says he's 'from' Iowa. He himself doesn't use the word 'born'.

So, he was born in space, and then spent the rest of his life in Iowa. So, he's from Iowa.

[Kallen]

Originally Posted by kevin

I think it's a grey area - in VOY HOME Kirk says he's 'from' Iowa. He himself doesn't use the word 'born'.

So, he was born in space, and then spent the rest of his life in Iowa. So, he's from Iowa.

Very good point. Similar to how someone may be BORN in California, but grows up in Florida would say they are from Florida...

[I-Am-Zim]

I thought this was funny. I bought my tickets online and I just got an e-mail asking me to fill out a survey and give my review of the movie. When I went to the survey page, there are reviewes from others who have seen the movie. This one caught my attention:

"This movie had spaceships and a green lady. What more could you want! I liked the movie because there was things going boom and pow."

That was the very first review. The rest were similar with few exceptions. I guess we're getting new fans.

[kevin]

No-one said the IQ of new fans was going to be impressive.

[JSnyder4]

Originally Posted by kevin

No-one said the IQ of new fans was going to be impressive.

Frankly, no one believes the IQ level of "old fans" was anything to write home about either - if you choose to go down that road.

All you have to do is look at some of the threads here of the devoutly "faithful" posters for a general consensus. Most of them can't even spell their mantric word "canon" correctly. They mostly just parrot crap that the internet spews at them. Ultimately it ends up like a game of telephone.

[Ensign James T. Kirk]

I think some people are taking a fictional construct ...and themselves ....a little too seriously here.

It's a good movie, it was a great tv series and 6 pretty good movies.

It is not the "History of Everything".

[RonSalon]

Originally Posted by Ensign James T. Kirk

I think some people are taking a fictional construct ...and themselves ....a little too seriously here.

It's a good movie, it was a great tv series and 6 pretty good movies.

It is not the "History of Everything".

That is exactly my point!