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Old 05-08-2009, 01:51 PM
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who cares about Enterprise that series is dreadfull it even makes deep space nine look gd
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:54 PM
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who cares about Enterprise that series is dreadful it even makes deep space nine look good
Enterprise wasn't that bad. It's canon though so there's nothing you can do about it. Oh, and DS9 is by far one of the better series.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:11 PM
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It would seem so. And now the 23rd Century doesn't look older than it either!

Is that really all you care about? Weather or not Star Trek looks hip hop? What about the fans? What about the 43 years of history?
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:12 PM
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Is that really all you care about? Weather or not Star Trek looks hip hop? What about the fans? What about the 43 years of history?
It's all still 100% intact.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:16 PM
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Fans. Fans. Fans.

Fandom is the beginning of popularity....not the end.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:19 PM
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lol...nice Martok.

Indeed...nature abhors a vacuum.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:23 PM
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According to Archer's bio, he lived to see the NCC-1701 launched in the prime timeline. So he might well have lived long enough (he'd probably be around 140 I guess? 22nd century medicine I suppose). As for Porthos though, a hundred years is sort of pushing it. :P Must be another beagle.
people have lived past 120 now so i dont think it is that unrealistic that people may live to 200 in the future.
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Old 05-08-2009, 02:26 PM
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It just points out that the only series now present in an unaffected way in both timelines is Enterprise.
Actually, I find no evidence to support that the events of ENT are either the same or altered.

As was pointed out by others here, there are changes shown to TREK history which happened before Nero's arrival: George Kirk's career being one of them.

Though this gets into a very hazy, undocumented area of discussion because so little facts exist (on screen, at least) about George Kirk.

Orci said last April at a con that ENT wouldn't play a part in his film. The Archer reference was about the extend of it, and even as that it's terribly VAGUE in its meaning.

There is more than one Kirk in Starfleet, so there's no reason not to think there could be more than one generation of Archer in Starfleet -- and it's likely given the time frame that Scotty didn't work with the Bakula-version.

Beyond speculation which is just that, I recall no evidence to support any conclusion about the events of ENT remaining (un)changed in the alternate universe. I'd hazard a guess: if indeed this universe pre-exists before Nero's arrival, the history of ENT would likely be MOSTLY the same as seen in the series, since there may have been little change to cause any divergence.

Even two identical, parallel universes running side by side without interference would probably NOT be identical, since so many individual choices and random events could easily alter history just as a natural matter of course. Guy turns left on a street, meets a different women who becomes his wife, they still have one child together but it's a different child, etc.
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lol...nice Martok.

Indeed...nature abhors a vacuum.
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Potential fan: (looking at new movie poster of Star Trek) I do not understand the significance of this representation.

Old School Fan: It is a depiction from ancient Earth mythology, characterizing the Phoenix rising from the ashes of its death.

PF: Why keep it on the movie marquee?

OSF: It is a reminder to me that all things change. You must have faith.

PF: Faith?

OSF: That Star Trek will evolve as it should.

PF: But, what about fandom? Surely we must...

OSF: Fandom. Fandom. Fandom. Fandom is the beginning of popularity, oh Potential One, not the end. This will be the changing of Star Trek as we know it. Nature abhors a vaccuum. We hope the new fanbase will legitimize us.

PF: We can only augment you, sir.

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Maybe. But if there's money to be made watch it happen.
The paramount execs currently in power hate Trek.
Thats why ST:ENT was cancelled and when that wrappped shooting, all the sets from TNG to ENT were destroyed and all the props, models, costumes and miscellanea were sold off. They'll not be willing to make a new TV show.
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