[FanWriter45]

So, where were you last Thursday? Perhaps you were like me, chatting with a fellow coworker, and arguing with them about evolution vs science. They kept telling me that the Earth and the universe is only about 10,000 years old... (yep, he was one of THOSE) The funny thing is, at pretty much the same time he was telling me this, NASA's SWIFT probe was looking at a new gamma ray burst... which they have now calculated to be the oldest observable phenomena in existence.

13 BILLION years old, at least.

If you'd like the details, click on over to the "Bad Astronomy" blog site. Dr. Phil Plait has a nice little bit on the discovery.

Me? I just shot my co-worker a link to the site. (LOL... you gotta love it!)

[jerhanner]

Isn't that cool? Maybe that means the Grand Canyon isn't 500 years old either...

[kevin]

I don't argue with anybody over Evolution, I think it's the most likely theory - if they don't I leave them to it.

Though it always reminds me of a documentary I saw here in the UK.

A person, who was campaigning in the UK for MP's here to base laws on Biblical content (this covered a variety of topics, as you can imagine, but basing all the country's laws on the Bible was the gist) was being asked about Evolution and her position on it.

As part of that, the interviewer asked her simply 'how old do you think the Earth is?'. She replied 'about 4,000 years or so'. So, he very fairly asked her how she reconciled that with science's ability to establish the much older age of the Earth.

Instead of answering his question with whatever it was that assured her the Earth was the age she believed it was, she hummed for a moment and then asked for the video camera to be turned off.

She never did answer the question onscreen.

[martok2112]

And I'm sure all the atheists are just jumping with joy.

Why all the hate on God? What did He ever do to them?

[Akula2ssn]

As an A&W root beer commercial once put it. "That's pretty thick headed."

P.S. Martok, I've been wanting to ask this for ages now. What on earth is that sig of yours? I find it strangely amusing.

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by Akula2ssn

As an A&W root beer commercial once put it. "That's pretty thick headed."

P.S. Martok, I've been wanting to ask this for ages now. What on earth is that sig of yours? I find it strangely amusing.

You mean the gif pic? That is His Holiness Guru Tugginmypuddha. (As played by Ben Kingsley in "The Love Guru".)

[kevin]

Originally Posted by martok2112

And I'm sure all the atheists are just jumping with joy.

Why all the hate on God? What did He ever do to them?

I don't know how many watched the program, but I would assume some were. It's a reasonable conclusion based on how strongly some people on both sides feel.

Personally, I just thought that the woman lost credibility in what she was trying to do.

I don't think people hate God - just not everyone believes in his existence.

[Bright Eyes]

Fancy being one of THOSE. Any sensible person shouldn't be one of THOSE. One would have to be really stupid to be one of THEM.
It would be good if people would have a read of what THEY actually say, instead of what their enemies say that they say, before slagging off at them. Creation.com would be a good starting point. If one wants to vilify a minority group which dares to be different to an intolerant majority, one should at least know what they actually are saying, and why. I've got no more to say on this.

[kevin]

Creation.com is not a good starting point. The problem is these sites are far from convincing to many people. Reprehensible attempts to blame Darwin for Stalin and Hitler aside, now that I've had a look at the site I'm even more inclined to stick with what I think.

[FanWriter45]

Bright Eyes, I'm a science fiction fan. Believe me, I've encountered and tolerated plenty of weird ideas in my time. It's not WHAT my co-worker believes personally that annoys me. It's that they wish to push their narrow beliefs onto everyone else around them. (Twice now, they've been given formal warnings about their behavior by the higher ups. Preaching loudly about how gay marriage is wrong, how America is headed for disaster because we let a black guy into the white house... yeah, they are a real peice of work.)