[Diron Hod]

Originally Posted by MrQ1701

they do travel across the entire galaxy in a matter of days. So it seems Star Wars Hyperdrive is more advanced than Trek Warp drive.

"She'll make point five past light speed."

Han Solo referring to the Millennium Falcon (fastest ship in the galaxy). Sorry, but if I remember correctly Warp 1 is light speed. It may simply be that the Star Wars galaxy is smaller than ours.

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by Diron Hod

"She'll make point five past light speed."

Han Solo referring to the Millennium Falcon (fastest ship in the galaxy). Sorry, but if I remember correctly Warp 1 is light speed. It may simply be that the Star Wars galaxy is smaller than ours.

The way it works is that Han basically said his ship will make the destination in half the travel time of typical starships in the Star Wars universe.

As it is explained in the Star Wars RPG's....which are taken from the Lucasfilm Archives. ships have hyperdrive modifiers. (This is expressed in multipliers... x.5, x1, x2, x4....etc). A ship with an x1 modifier will make a light speed jump to its destination in the proper estimated travel time. A ship with an x2 modifier will end up taking twice as long to get there as a ship with an x1 modifier. Han's ship has an x 0.5 modifier, meaning he will make it to the destination in half the travel time as a ship with an x1 mod.

[Biggest Capt. Kirk Fan]

Originally Posted by martok2112

The way it works is that Han basically said his ship will make the destination in half the travel time of typical starships in the Star Wars universe.

still though the star trek universe is much faster then star wars. george lucas thinks he can compete with star trek

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by Diron Hod

"She'll make point five past light speed."

Han Solo referring to the Millennium Falcon (fastest ship in the galaxy). Sorry, but if I remember correctly Warp 1 is light speed. It may simply be that the Star Wars galaxy is smaller than ours.

Perhaps that is without engaging hyperdrive? Perhaps that was poor writing with little scientific knowledge? If ".5 past light speed" is slower than warp one (which it may be) and that is the top speed of the MF, then how do you explain ships traveling from one star system to another in a day or less? The entire galaxy is represented by the galactic senate (nearly, with the exception of some outer rim systems). Don't get too hung up on one line that is probably just another science fiction inconsistency. None of these writers actually thought there would be fans that would realize these things were unrealistic, even for a science fiction movie.

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by Biggest Capt. Kirk Fan

still though the star trek universe is much faster then star wars.

How do you figure? Wouldn't it have taken Voyager over 70 years to travel from one quadrant to the other? In Star Wars we see ships travel from one inner system to the outer rim in under one day. I'm a fan of Trek more so than Star Wars, but at least make an argument that makes sense.

[Diron Hod]

Originally Posted by martok2112

The way it works is that Han basically said his ship will make the destination in half the travel time of typical starships in the Star Wars universe.

As it is explained in the Star Wars RPG's....which are taken from the Lucasfilm Archives. ships have hyperdrive modifiers. (This is expressed in multipliers... x.5, x1, x2, x4....etc). A ship with an x1 modifier will make a light speed jump to its destination in the proper estimated travel time. A ship with an x2 modifier will end up taking twice as long to get there as a ship with an x1 modifier. Han's ship has an x 0.5 modifier, meaning he will make it to the destination in half the travel time as a ship with an x1 mod.

Okay so it goes twice light speed, it's still not faster.

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by Biggest Capt. Kirk Fan

still though the star trek universe is much faster then star wars. george lucas thinks he can compete with star trek

Fanwank. BS fanwank, and that's all it is.

How many times must it be said? George Lucas is NOT competing with Star Trek. He just likes to make movies. He is not interested in competition, except when he had his friendly competition with his friend and colleague Steven Spielberg during the Star Wars/E.T. years.

Fanboys only think there is competition.

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by Diron Hod

Okay so it goes twice light, it's still not faster.

So what you believe is that the Star Wars galaxy is so small that it could fit within a star system or two in the Trek galaxy? And yet this galaxy is big enough to have so many different races and planets? Read the writing on the wall, hyperdrive is faster no matter how you try to rationalize that it is not. I'm a big Trek fan and this little fact does NOT bother me one bit.

[MrQ1701]

Originally Posted by martok2112

Fanwank. BS fanwank, and that's all it is..

Unfortunately that seems to be the case.

[martok2112]

Originally Posted by Diron Hod

Okay so it goes twice warp light, it's still not faster.

I dunno.

Remember this quote from Admiral Piett in The Empire Strikes Back?

"If the Millennium Falcon went into light speed, she'd be on the other side of the galaxy by now."

Now, it can be speculated that Admiral Piett was simply making an exasperated statement that the Falcon is nowhere near their fleet's vicinity, and not necessarily at the other end of the galaxy.

But if there was indeed truth in what Piett said, then I'd venture to say that Star Wars ships are considerably faster than Trek ships.

Light speed could very well be a generic term used to describe faster than light travel...just as laser is a generic term for a majority of Star Wars' energy based weapons.

Technology comparisons between Trek and Star Wars are really nonsensical....because the values between the two apparently cannot be juxtaposed.

A laser in Star Wars could very well be something equivalent to the power of a phaser in Star Trek....especially turbolasers.

Light speed in Star Wars could very well be the equivalent of higher warp speeds in Star Trek. That the Star Wars ships have different hyperdrive multipliers lends some credence to this possibility.

Only Trek fanboys would allow for none of these possibilities, because they want everything to fit nice and neatly into their real-world perceptions of what lasers and light speed are...thus conveniently (in their minds) making Star Wars technology seem inferior to Star Trek. They conveniently forget that Star Wars is space fantasy, implying that the way things work in Star Wars obviously do not work they way they would in the real-world.

Star Wars fanboys would not allow for any of Trek's possibilities, because of elements like "The Force", and because they don't have a firm grasp on general reality.

So, as you can see...it's give and take. Allow for some fantasy, but also allow for some realism. That's where I strike a balanced view between Star Wars and Star Trek. When one group of fanboys says: "Oh, this'll never work because A. has this and B. does not."....I really just want to give them treeline counseling to wake them up and pray to God they might go get themselves laid.