[Beetlescott]

Since I have gotten the model/toy, I like it better. the nacelles still give me pause, the covers look like fenders on an old oldsmobile! The nacelles are to close to the saucer! almost touching it. But, like I said, it's growing on me. I think when we see her flying on her own, on the big screen, my friend, we are going to feel differently. Great thread Zim!!!

[Star Trek]

Originally Posted by I-Am-Zim

...So, out of respect for those who like the design, I thought I'd start a thread about what people don't like about the Abramsprise....

nothing.

[Saquist]

Originally Posted by RedShirtWalking

There are things I like about it and things I don't.

At first I thought the neck was too far back, but then I took a good look at the Jefferies' Enterprise. The neck on that one is also set back pretty far compared to the ST: TMP refit Enterprise, so the new Enterprise doesn't seem that bad to me on this detail.

I'm not a big fan of the secondary hull.

I agree completely about the nacelles not being far enough apart.

No you were right, it is too far back for it's self The Neck IS LARGE as the Secondary hull is tiny. If you compare it to the Jefferies design it's fine but the Jeffereis Design has a larger Secondary hull that can fit that neck and nacelle placement.

[TNG_Trekman]

To start off. I love the ship.

BUT

I'd love to willingly take an opposite side to my initial thoughts.

People have said the ship looks to "squished" in terms of the saucer section and engineering section. Come to think of it, it kind of does.

When I first saw the ship (posted on Trekmovie.com) I had to take a double look. It seemed very alien to me.

The nacelle pylons (when not at warp, thanks to new information) look too close for comfort. And yeah, the nacelles themselves (say "nacelles themselves" 5 times REALLY fast ) are big...REALLY big.

Nitpicking can be fun!

But I love the ship. It makes sense.

[Saquist]

An objective moment for a trek fan....fleeting yet....refreshing.

[RedShirtsRuS]

I think the neck is less a neck now and it is actually an extension of the secondary hull. (which is why I think the secondary hull excluding the neck is so tiny). Kinda like how the Enterprise E barely has a neck at all.

That being said I would've rathered the neck be a little smaller and closer to the deflector dish.

I love the saucer and the nacelles though.

[TNG_Trekman]

Originally Posted by Saquist

An objective moment for a trek fan....fleeting yet....refreshing.

I'm going to assume that comment was for me.

[I-Am-Zim]

Wow! I'm surprised how fast this thread filled up! Thanks for all the comments! And Saint, good to see ya again. Where ya been?

So keep it up. I'm thoroughly enjoying this!

[I-Am-Zim]

I know everybody's already seen these, but here are some of my favorite "re-imagined" NCC-1701's.

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Deg, Gabe, EdenFX, Gabe again, Vektor. In that order.

They are all very well executed and not only keep the original design intact, but also make the ship look totally modern and functional.

I still like Deg3d's the best.

[Magnum]

Whats wrong with using the ship from the TOS? Its still a very good design.

Abrams Abramsprise consist of a Star Trek Primary hull (from Star Trek 6 which is not the TOS) attached to a Ship from Star Wars.

I watched the last three movies of StarWars and the engines look similar to some I saw in the last three Star Wars films. Also the ideal of a ship built on the ground is used extensivly in Star Wars. one wonders if this is where Abrams got his ideals.

And thats my opinion.