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Old 04-18-2009, 11:40 PM
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Respectfully, I wouldn't say Lucas or Roddenberry ripped off other sci-fi authors, or even other author/directors....as much as they were inspired by them. Other sci-fi/fantasy movies are inspired by what has come before.

Akira Kurasawa (of Seven Samurai) has been influential on some fictional stories.

The Magnificent Seven was a Western remake of Seven Samurai. After that, Battle Beyond the Stars was a sci-fi take, influenced by both Seven Samurai and Magnificent Seven.

The movie Krull was taken almost directly from Arthurian legend and lore.

The look and feel of ALIEN was directly inspired by 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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Going back further, Tolkien took much of his basis for the LOTR trilogy on Norse legend and even further back Wagner took much of his inspiration for the Nibelungen operas from the same sources. Nothing is completely original.

Going even further back Shakespeare took old Italian tales for inspiration for many of his comedies.
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I would say that someone read Tolkien's LOTR and went into the past in a time machine and wrote the Norse legends, creating an alternative time line.
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You never know! Could be.
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That's okay... the Ewoks always reminded me of H. Beam Piper's "Little Fuzzies"...

One guy rips off one science fiction writer, the next filmmaker rips off that filmmaker... and so on and so on...

(I hate to be the one to break it to the folks who think that Lucas and Roddenberry were Gods... but none of their stuff was what you could call original... they just did a difinative version of their sub genre.

Lucas ripped off: Kurasawa, Lensman, Asimov, Leigh Brackett...

Roddenberry ripped off: Space Patrol, A.E. Van Vogt, Forbidden Planet, Legion of Space, Asimov....)
Well you know - Ripped off/Influenced by can equal potato/potato.

But certainly, both guys did not 'invent' anything wildly new with Trek or Wars, they just took older ideas and gave them a space setting.

But it doesn't really matter in the long run - all the same ideas eventually get reused over time. It doesn't mean what they do wasn't enjoyable.
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lol, "more explosions make better trailers".
I'm getting a sinking feeling.
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I'm getting a sinking feeling.
lol, That was from one of the clips on the first page.
I just found it funny.
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When you "borrow" from more than three sources, you can then call it "research."
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I would say that someone read Tolkien's LOTR and went into the past in a time machine and wrote the Norse legends, creating an alternative time line.
I think you got that the other way around.
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I think you got that the other way around.
Yes, I did, because of Livingston's post above it, and I gave it a current Star Trek spin.
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