The Official Star Trek Movie Forum

The Official Star Trek Movie Forum > Star Trek > General Star Trek Discussions > Trek Tech > Ships, Devices, etc. > stupid warp engine question
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-07-2009, 01:47 AM
Livingston's Avatar
Livingston Livingston is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Along the Kessel Run
Posts: 4,964
Default stupid warp engine question

They use dilithium crystals to regulate the matter/anti-matter reaction needed to achieve warp, so how did Cochrance do it on the Phoenix?

I mean, they are not indigenous to earth, these crystals. Did he get them from some place in the terran system? Seems like he didn't have the capability of doing so in First Contact. How'd he get by without them?

You think about these things if you stay up too long.
__________________


"Death, delicious strawberry flavored death!"
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-07-2009, 05:24 AM
horatio's Avatar
horatio horatio is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 9,257
Default

Matter is entirely converted into energy without dilithium. I am not sure, but I guess that the form of energy might be similar to the result of nuclear fusion, a variety of EM radiation.

So dilithium might be the magic crystal which creates warp plasma, this neat substance you can send through the entire ship. Sounds more convincing than the idea that dilithium increases the efficiency of the process which is already perfect.

Don't forget that Cochrance had Barclay, the MacGyver of the 24th century.



Or his trick was much simpler, just say "let's rock 'n'roll!".
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-07-2009, 05:41 AM
NCC-73515's Avatar
NCC-73515 NCC-73515 is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
Posts: 7,207
Default

Dilithium can exist as a gas
__________________


"English! I thought I dreamed hearing it!"?
Khan, Space Seed (TOS)

Brought to you in living color by NCC.
-= first fan member =-

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-07-2009, 10:25 AM
Saquist's Avatar
Saquist Saquist is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,257
Default

Remember the problem with antimatter reactions is that 90-something percent of the energy is released in non interactive plasma. The likely role of Dilithium could be that like water it may be the only thing that neutrino's interact with. If you could harnest that unused energy you could do almost anything. The Plasma created from such interactions would be so powerful that few things could contain it.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-07-2009, 01:32 PM
Buckman's Avatar
Buckman Buckman is offline
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 182
Default

shhh its Quartz
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-11-2009, 01:59 PM
vuedoc's Avatar
vuedoc vuedoc is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New York City
Posts: 1,931
Default

From what I read in the Star Trek Compendium 20-some-odd years ago, dilithium is NOT required for the matter/anti-matter reaction. What the dilithium does do is focus the power so that greater energies can be produced for higher FTL speeds. If anyone else remembers a ship called the Bonaventure which (from a source called "Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology" c. 1976) was the first starship to be built with transporters and the last to be built without dilithium crystal focus for the warp drive, resulting in a maximum speed of warp 5. The was long before Enterprise was televised.
__________________
"Stop it? I'm counting on it."
"But not because you threaten me. I'll pay you because... it's my pleasure."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-11-2009, 10:27 PM
MagaditH MagaditH is offline
Lieutenant Commander
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Diego
Posts: 780
Default

He went to Autozone and bought a bunch of batteries. Sometimes the simplest answer can be the logical one.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-15-2009, 07:25 PM
flw's Avatar
flw flw is offline
Ensign
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 96
Default

Gerbils, man .. it's all gerbils, wheels, and rubber bands. That's what I used when I invented warp drive last week in my basement. (Either that, or it's cold fusion in a glass.)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-15-2009, 07:27 PM
sraviik's Avatar
sraviik sraviik is offline
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: COOKIES
Posts: 413
Default

I feel the need to tell you; the only stupid question is one not asked.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-16-2009, 05:58 PM
Glacial's Avatar
Glacial Glacial is offline
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 265
Default

I got the idea that the Phoenix, along with the ECS ships, Intrepid-types and Warp Delta ships from ENT were all supposed to be fusion(impulse)-powered, and thus limited to Warp 2 or so.

That'd explain how the Romulans got an empire with 'simple impulse' power, and Arik Soong said the first ships to colonize the Solar System were nuclear-powered.
__________________
Signatures make my posts more aesthetically pleasing!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:05 AM.


Forum theme courtesy of Mark Lambert
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 by Paramount Pictures. STAR TREK and all related
marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All Rights Reserved.