[DammitJim]

Originally Posted by kevin

I think that now that is less of a problem - did BSG look like a TV show? Does 24? Television production values and budgets have came a long way since even Enterprise ended it's run. It never embraced them and stuck to the Trek template. But if a new series was to take advantage of the location filming, camera work and effects that can now be done then there is no reason it has to 'look' like a TV show the way it did before.

but execs might take the chance to get cheap counting on a new wave of popularity... but if done right still think mini-series.

Originally Posted by MrQ1701

We've seen Pike in what..2 episodes? We've heard a few things that made him out to be another great Captain, whoopie-do-da! He's a minor character that was REPLACED with Kirk (I'm talking real life here). Should we have a series about EVERY character that has been seen in one or two episodes and that has also been referred to as a GREAT .....whatever? I hope all the Pike fans (not that there's much to get excited about) get there "fill" with this new movie. Then let's forget about Pike.

what's with the Pike hate, friend?? TNG time is over. moving 'forward' now means repairing years of Berman & Co. mishandling of the franchise.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by DammitJim

but execs might take the chance to get cheap counting on a new wave of popularity... but if done right still think mini-series.

I see what your saying, but I don't think it's likely - in today's TV with HD and all the high production values of other big shows now, they couldn't get away with doing it on the cheap. As someone on another thread mentioned, the one thing that was never done cheap was the TV shows - (even back in TNG debut year it was a very expensive show) it was just the films that had to work with less money than the competition.

I don't mind a mini-series if it leads to a weekly show - but a mini-series on it's own is basically a waste of time if it doesn't lead to anything. It would be as well being the basis of another movie.

[Commodore]

Oh, hell no.

Never again should Star Trek movies and TV shows occupy the same timeframe. The same thing that nearly killed Trek before would happen again.

[DammitJim]

Originally Posted by kevin

As someone on another thread mentioned, the one thing that was never done cheap was the TV shows - (even back in TNG debut year it was a very expensive show)

it was expensive, but how many times were the 'caves' used? you could tell alien jungles were indoor sets?

in TOS, they filmed outdoors a lot [maybe reused a lot of locations but the effort was made], that was something missing from the spin-offs.

Originally Posted by kevin

I don't mind a mini-series if it leads to a weekly show - but a mini-series on it's own is basically a waste of time if it doesn't lead to anything. It would be as well being the basis of another movie.

I meant a couple of TV movies or mini-series a year. that way we could have big epic stories.

[DammitJim]

Originally Posted by Commodore

Oh, hell no.

Never again should Star Trek movies and TV shows occupy the same timeframe. The same thing that nearly killed Trek before would happen again.

'Twas Berman killed the beast.


DS9 was awesome because he wasn't there.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by DammitJim

it was expensive, but how many times were the 'caves' used? you could tell alien jungles were indoor sets?

in TOS, they filmed outdoors a lot [maybe reused a lot of locations but the effort was made], that was something missing from the spin-offs.

I don't think TOS went on location that often either - it was a mostly studio bound series, all the Trek shows have been.

I meant a couple of TV movies or mini-series a year. that way we could have big epic stories.

Well, I guess we're all different, but it's not an idea I'd be happy with.

[DammitJim]

but TOS did go outdoors at times

if we weren't all different, we'd all be boring.

[kevin]

Originally Posted by DammitJim

but TOS did go outdoors at times

...and so did TNG, DS9 and the others! - just not that often!

if we weren't all different, we'd all be boring.

True!

[DammitJim]

Originally Posted by kevin

...and so did TNG, DS9 and the others! - just not that often!

but always those flippin' caves.

although Enterprise off ship sets were better than all the others.

[kevin]

Well the caves worked for me better than the fake coloured skylines at the back of surface sets!!