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Old 03-10-2009, 11:22 AM
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I believe it will be tractored into space via a tractor beam from the orbiting space station.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:30 AM
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Which means there isn't that much of difference between the two ships in terms of mass and that it's possible for the Enterprise to take off from Earth on its own, right? I'm sorry, I'm feeling a little dense today.
Forget all the technobabble, it is possible because Kirk says "quarter impulse, Mr.Sulu".
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:38 AM
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I think that the first problem would be that such an enormous mass would not sink into the ground. At least I had that thought during "Basics" (when Voyager landed). But then again it is just a movie and not a physics course. If a scene has dramatic relevance, they are free to "change the laws of physics" IMHO
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:50 AM
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Forget all the technobabble, it is possible because Kirk says "quarter impulse, Mr.Sulu".
Of course! It's because Kirk said so and he can make the Enterprise do anything (with Scotty's help, of course!).
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:55 AM
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I believe it will be tractored into space via a tractor beam from the orbiting space station.
That's probably right. Sounds more probable than the antigrav or launching under its own power.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:48 PM
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Which means there isn't that much of difference between the two ships in terms of mass and that it's possible for the Enterprise to take off from Earth on its own, right? I'm sorry, I'm feeling a little dense today.
The thing about the Voyager was that the Intrepid-class was designed for planetary landings and takeoffs. It's a more compact and sturdy design than the Constitution-class and its weight is more even distributed throughout the ship, IMO.

The original Enterprise? Not so much...
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I fully understand the producers reasons behind the lighter tone of Dr Who, but you can still lighten the tone without so much slapstick comedy. My two sons (12 & 8) complain to me about this and much prefer to watch John Pertwee - The Green Death, Planet of the Spiders or Tom Baker - Genesis of the Daleks Etc. I think if you put too much slapstick in Sci-Fi it becomes something totally different i.e. Comedy

I am not a fan of Russell T Davies and hope that the new writer / producer Steven Moffat improves things.
You and your sons are in a minority then. RTD and his team have made Dr. Who much more accesible to a wider audience and been very successful in doing so.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:35 PM
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With repulsor technology available in this century, why wouldn't it be used when constructing an object of this size/mass on Earth or near any gravitational field?

On the other hand, we can build giant skyscraper buildings which stand on a much smaller footprint than the Enterprise would seem to occupy, and they don't sink straight into the ground. If anything, the E's design would tend to spread is mass across a rather large footprint, thus distributing its weight quite well across the surface.
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Not to mention that a ship which warps through space should be able to warp out of the gravity well of a planet.
This. If puts out enough motive energy to break the light barrier within a second or two (or even impulse pushing it to a respectable fraction of c), a few g's of acceleration from the surface is nothing.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:22 AM
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You and your sons are in a minority then. RTD and his team have made Dr. Who much more accesible to a wider audience and been very successful in doing so.
Sci-fi that appeals to a wider audience is nearly always poor. None of the great Sci-Fi movies ever appealed to a wide audience 2001, Dune Etc.

I agree with another poster who said.....

I think these golden rules should be observed to ensure the success of Dr Who S5

1 Daleks in every other episode
2 Return of the Time Lords
3 A story based in the TARDIS and its corridors etc (not the swimming baths like the Invasion of Time)
4 No more sycophantic interviews (if I hear 'I'm jealous' from one more lovey I'll go mad)
5 Few more Daleks
6 Dark stories, more dark stories and even more dark, dark, stories.

I want the BBC complaints dept busy again with people moaning it was scaring the kids (despite the fact they watched the whole thing through and could have pressed the red button at anytime).

I realise all of this seems to be getting off topic but fine details like how the Enterprise gets launched are so important to a hard core Sci-Fi fan. For me I hope they use some huge earth based antigravity machine, a sort of 23rd century version of a ship launching down a slipway. Also to tie in my points about Dr Who too much comedy will kill Star Trek so fingers crossed they get the balance right.
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