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Old 03-09-2009, 03:38 PM
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I have a feeling we wont see it launch from earth at all. The next time you will see if after being finished on earth is in a space dock.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:55 AM
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This implies that all of the pre-wilderness gap plots were NOT silly! Many of the stories of the post-gap are silly when viewed from a non-fan view - but you can look at most of the pre-gap stories from the same view and come to the same conclusion.

Also, it would be unwise to take the years and years of the pre-gap and say that the plots were 'much darker' in comparison to the post-gap. We have had a piffling four years of new material! The initial years of pre-gap were not nearly as dark as the last years of pre-gap.

The reason why it seems 'lighter' nowadays is because if you get too dark it doesn't stay a family show - which is what it was in its prime!
I fully understand the producers reasons behind the lighter tone of Dr Who, but you can still lighten the tone without so much slapstick comedy. My two sons (12 & 8) complain to me about this and much prefer to watch John Pertwee - The Green Death, Planet of the Spiders or Tom Baker - Genesis of the Daleks Etc. I think if you put too much slapstick in Sci-Fi it becomes something totally different i.e. Comedy

I am not a fan of Russell T Davies and hope that the new writer / producer Steven Moffat improves things.
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:42 AM
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oh i know they built a giant transporter which **seemingly Magically** transports it directly from earth to spacedock which is actually fitted with all the equipment for such large transports. JK
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:06 AM
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That is one of the things that bothers me the most about this movie. How do they plan to get a 200,000+ ton starship from earth into orbit. It would have been much more practical, not to mention easier, to build the ship in orbital spacedock. The microgravity environment would have simplified the assembly process dramatically. Even building the individual components on earth and shuttling them into orbit for assembly would have been more practical. If we do even see the ship "launched" into orbit, it will probably either "float" up on antigravity pads or it will have several coke bottle-size rockets attached to it to gently lift it into orbit. Either way, it will probably look pretty silly especially when you consider the sheer mass of the ship. The original Enterprise weighed approximately 190K tons. This ship is apparently much larger than the real Enterprise, so it probably weighs more like 250K tons. That's a big ship. Lifting something that size into orbit would be a monumental feat of engineering, even in the 23rd century. It should be interesting to see how they do it.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:09 AM
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:59 AM
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Im sure they wont show us how they do it, its just going to be on the ground one minute and then in space the next.

Actually, can't the ship accend on its own power? Like on impluse power? I seem to recall in Enterprise the ship having an in atmosphere dogfight with the nazi's in a mirror darkly.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:49 AM
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Well Voyager could land so who knows.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:49 AM
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But Voyager was a LOT smaller than the Enterprise. And it was designed for planetside takeoff and landing. The Enterprise was not.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:16 AM
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MA gives the masses of Voyager (700.000 t) and Enterprise (<1.000.000 t). Enough said.

Not to mention that a ship which warps through space should be able to warp out of the gravity well of a planet.
Which means there isn't that much of difference between the two ships in terms of mass and that it's possible for the Enterprise to take off from Earth on its own, right? I'm sorry, I'm feeling a little dense today.
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