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Old 03-09-2009, 08:06 AM
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Heroes Has Better Ratings Then Ghost Whisperer, and the Monday time slot is a big factor. People are resting, and alot of the audience they're looking for is watching that show.
It really is more of a case of Viacom saying "screw you, CBS, we're going with NBC."

In an ideal world--or prior to 2006 Paramount split up, anyway--Viacom and CBS would be working to help one another as they were once one company (and technically still are). Putting the sneak peak on Ghost Whisperer likely would have helped that show's ratings and would have helped CBS in general (at least for that timeslot anyway). In short, it would have been about helping "the family business."

Instead, Viacom went with NBC's big hit in a clever cross-promotion, with CBS left out in the cold. But then again, Viacom has been giving CBS the cold shoulder for quite awhile now (you won't find any of the Star Trek movies airing there)...
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:19 AM
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saquist i am glad you ve had a change of heart for the movie man,you wont regret it
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It really is more of a case of Viacom saying "screw you, CBS, we're going with NBC."

In an ideal world--or prior to 2006 Paramount split up, anyway--Viacom and CBS would be working to help one another as they were once one company (and technically still are). Putting the sneak peak on Ghost Whisperer likely would have helped that show's ratings and would have helped CBS in general (at least for that timeslot anyway). In short, it would have been about helping "the family business."

Instead, Viacom went with NBC's big hit in a clever cross-promotion, with CBS left out in the cold. But then again, Viacom has been giving CBS the cold shoulder for quite awhile now (you won't find any of the Star Trek movies airing there)...
Yeah, how does the ownership of Star Trek break down again? Will CBS get any credit in the new movie since they own the overall franchise?
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Probably. They will get credit for the characters.
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Yeah, how does the ownership of Star Trek break down again?
The 2006 split up of Paramount essentially divided Trek between two companies. CBS got the TV shows (through CBS Paramount), while Viacom got the movies (through Paramount Pictures). Although both companies are ultimately owned by Mr. Redstone, that really means very little since the two companies have very little to do with one another. Paramount has been reduced to a brand name the two share (along with Star Trek), but otherwise, they are rival companies that have hurt each other far more than helped each other since the split.
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Will CBS get any credit in the new movie since they own the overall franchise?
No. The only one who is going to get any credit is Gene Roddenberry for creating TOS. And he's the legal loophole that allows Viacom to use a TV-only character like Christopher Pike.

And as far as the overall franchise, it's really two separate franchises now. Viacom owns the movie franchise while CBS owns the TV franchise. Star Trek XI is technically where the two franchises part ways and go off into their own separate universes. Some of the design changes in Star Trek XI has less to do with "updating the look for new audiences" and more to do with avoiding a lawsuit from CBS for using exact designs (it's kinda of complicated legaleese, but Viacom can use similar designs, but just not the exact designs from TOS).
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Does Paramount get credit for the Countdown comic or CBS? There's a lot of the TV stuff in that comic...
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For licensed stuff--such as books and comics--companies are free to work with both CBS and Viacom, but CBS Consumer Products is the company that generally handles licensing with all Trek-related material.
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Anyone know if Heroes on the BBC is getting it aswell?
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The Countdown comic series is credited to Paramount, as the film's co-writers also conceived the story of this prequel comic. And since it's an official prequel to the film, both are Paramount products.

re: putting tonight's sneak peek in Heroes as being "convenient", I think this overlooks the undeniable connection between Quinto and the two roles involved. Plus, Heroes would prove a great target demographic for TREK's future audience.

Market goes to the audience to pull them in -- it doesn't stand in the middle of a field and expect the audience to rush to them. The reasons why this TREK peek is being put in tonight's Heroes seem numerous and obvious to me.
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The Countdown comic series is credited to Paramount, as the film's co-writers also conceived the story of this prequel comic. And since it's an official prequel to the film, both are Paramount products.
Look again at the indicia. There's a double copyright there.

The comic is licensed from both Paramount Pictures (which is owned by Viacom) and CBS Studios Inc. Star Trek: Countdown was only possible because of an arrangement IDW had with both companies. Pocket Books has the same kind of arrangement for their upcoming novelization of the movie.

A year or two ago, however, Pocket Books removed the Paramount logo from their current line of Star Trek books as they are owned by CBS. This was a result of the recent falling out between Viacom and CBS. The Paramount logo will be returned only for the movie novelization.

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re: putting tonight's sneak peek in Heroes as being "convenient", I think this overlooks the undeniable connection between Quinto and the two roles involved. Plus, Heroes would prove a great target demographic for TREK's future audience.
That's kind of an obvious thing (which was why I didn't mention it), but prior to the split between Viacom and CBS, it still likely wouldn't have happened since the two were then under the same umbrella. It's why you don't see networks holding special sneak peaks for productions from other rival networks...but there's no love lost between Viacom and CBS.
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