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Old 03-08-2009, 11:42 AM
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I tend to agree that this will be a successful movie, but the "grow up" thing I disagree with. I am 38, and can remember in re-runs that TOS was one of the first color TV shows. Heady as the internet was color TV back in 66. You cannot compare 66 to 09, and even if you do I hardly relate special effects with "growing up". Taking the third season out, TOS was the most adult sci-fi ever made.

Again, welcome to the forum and I agree with alot of your post, but younger sexy actors, sped up action etc, is not growing up. It's about the story.

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younger sexy actors, sped up action etc, is not growing
I respect everyone’s opinion, but you misconstrued what I said. The "growing up" part was related to cheesy humor for kids as the first few batman movies were like. The younger sexy actor and better action part was about drawing in new viewers to fill the theater seats.
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I am with FireDevlin on this.
Young sexy actors and action does not make Trek great, which does not imply that it does any harm. It have been and always shall be the stories.
Oh, I agree, the story line has to be plausible and entertaining. “Watchmen” had all the makings of a great movie, but the story line sucked and ruined it, for me and the 15 friends I went with anyways.
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Seems as if two people had the same thing in mind at the same time ... fascinating
Only, no trek movie made over 100 Mill except “the voyage home” which did just under 105 Mill. The rumor of this budget being in the 160 Mil mark says they better do what no trek has done, fill the seats!
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Paramount had a good year in 08. Maybe they are hoping to kick off 09 with Trek and Transformers a month and a half apart?

On the top 150 Box office charts.


Rank Title Cumulative Gross Release Date

1 Titanic $600,788,188 12/19/1997
17 Forrest Gump $329,694,499 07/06/1994
19 Shrek the Third $322,719,944 05/18/2007
20 Transformers $319,246,193 07/03/2007
21 Iron Man $318,412,101 05/02/2008
23 Kingdom of the Crystal Skull $317,101,119 05/22/2008
52 Raiders of the Lost Ark $242,374,454 06/01/1981
56 Beverly Hills Cop $234,760,478 12/01/1984
58 War of the Worlds $234,280,354 06/29/2005
70 Ghost $217,631,306 07/13/1990
75 Kung Fu Panda $215,434,591 06/06/2008
76 Mission: Impossible 2 $215,409,889 05/24/2000
93 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade $197,171,806 05/24/1989
98 Twilight $190,341,818 11/21/2008
99 Grease $188,389,888 06/07/1978
109 What Women Want $182,811,707 12/15/2000
113 Mission: Impossible $180,981,856 05/22/1996
117 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom $179,870,271 05/01/1984
121 Top Gun Paramount $176,786,701 05/12/1986
125 Crocodile Dundee $174,803,506 09/26/1986
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In retrospect of the 1960’s Star Trek phenomenon, I can see why, in my own opinion, it became something of a geeky nerd thing. No one had a computer back then, the internet wouldn’t be a house hold name until 30 years later and aside from it being a Sci-Fi TV series, it was rather techy sounding and cheap graphics as the common person would loose interest real quick. Paramount, until late, had never put out enough money to put together something spectacular where anyone, Trek fan or not, could enjoy it. Add the latest special effects, throw in some younger sexy actors, speed up the action, opposed to the boring phaser beam, and you just might have a movie of epic proportions. Devoted Star Wars fans and Trek naysayers of the past just may come to see this movie. In fact, I’m positive they will. The latest trailer showed me more in 2 minutes then what Star Wars offered in its last 3 movies. If it is the same as I am thinking, the last 2 batman movies were a huge hit, IMO, because it decided to grow up and loose the cheap one-line attempts at humor, leaving everyone thinking this is for kids. It is time for Trek to do the same thing. If you want a huge theater turnout, you have to get with the times, and stop being afraid to shell out the necessary money. Star Trek has come to that point to either put up or shut up. Berman and Braga slaughtered to death trek, Throw them out the closest air lock and let J.J. Abrams direct it…..Good job!

Then again, I know I am biased and very critical of Star Trek. I’m 36 years old, and to tell the truth, I hated the TOS TV series, although I thought the TOS Movies were awesome, much better than the TNG Movies. DS9 was my favorite series, and although Voyager had its failures, I could sit for 2 weeks straight and watch all episodes of the 7 seasons back to back…again. I don’t understand all the technical babble, I don’t want to. I don’t have schematics of enterprise, and I’m not ready to B-Slap someone for screwing up canon. I don’t go to conventions or own any costumes or badges or any LCARS software on my PC. But I absolutely love Star Trek. As a kid I would be so disappointed to miss an episode of TNG in its first season. I want to be excited again by Star Trek, and this movie seems to be what I have been looking for.
Care to go into why you hate TOS?

And how is redoing the TOS era "going where no Trek has gone before"?

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