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Old 03-10-2009, 08:25 PM
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THAT is too close to a Star Wars story for comfort.

I really hope he just stays as the villian and doesn't end up learn his lesson.

I hope he just ends up being a lost soul. Would be more poetic and not as cliche as Star Wars has become.
And I don't see it as a "Star Wars cliche" because if it was cliched, it happened long before "Star Wars" ever came out.

I guess I'm a little sick of the black and white/good vs evil/and good wins out stories.

Okay, fine, I'm hoping Nero wins, everything is destroyed, the end no more. THAT would be something different...
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:41 PM
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And I don't see it as a "Star Wars cliche" because if it was cliched, it happened long before "Star Wars" ever came out.

I guess I'm a little sick of the black and white/good vs evil/and good wins out stories.

Okay, fine, I'm hoping Nero wins, everything is destroyed, the end no more. THAT would be something different...
You're right. Star Wars wasn't the first to come up with it.

But since Star Wars and Star Trek are rivals, people won't help but make the connection and accuse Star Trek of copying.

And I never said it had to be black and white/good vs evil.

I just want a tragic end to a misguided villain.

I sympathize greatly for Nero and what happened to his wife and all of Romulus. And I want to see him die learning nothing, cus I think that would make a better, more original story pretty much. Sometimes good people who go insane and they never learn anything and they just die, in real life. I don't see anything black and white about that. It would be a bigger reflection on reality than the usual redemption story(which doesn't happen as much).

Sad stories play out more often that that redemption stuff.

When's the last time a movie made you care about the villain and still killed the villain off?

It would be more original to me. Just saying.

I still think even with Nero's tragic demise there will still be a lot of optimism in the movie to still make it Star Trek.

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Old 03-11-2009, 07:05 AM
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I like Eric Bana. Troy and Blackhawk Down are my favorite roles. I am excited that he is the villain in this movie.
He was good in "The Other Boleyn Sister" too. I know that sounds like a chick flick, and maybe it is, but ultimately a movie about power. Bana plays King Henry... very charming but scary at the same time. Hmmm.... not unlike Nero, now that I think of it.
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If Nero beats Khan as a Trek villain I will eat my shorts and I will do it on this forum.
For the love all that is Holy...please don't..lol
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Who is Kevin Smith and how did he see it? Plz ask him his opinion on the neg's of the film

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Do yourself a favor and rent movies like Dogma, Mallrats, Clerks & Clerks II, and most recently Zak and Miri Make a Porno. Then you will know who Kevin Smith is. (Kevin Smith also plays the character Silent Bob in some of his movies.)
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