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Old 02-09-2008, 09:57 AM
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Wraith of Kahn is number one Star Trek in my book. But his opponent was human. I hope they start making Star trek more frightful and more drama. Most of the 2nd generation was like watching general hospital in space. And the outfits of the creatures just got unbelievable.

I know Star Trek is about finding human-like people on other planets. But what if there is none?
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:25 AM
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I'll admit, a part of me wants to see SOME "shoot em up" action
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:30 AM
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I'll admit, a part of me wants to see SOME "shoot em up" action
Exactly. Maybe this first one could focus on how Kirk cheated his way to Captain, and then go get em [clean up the universe] and ask Spock later what he thinks.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:32 AM
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Wraith of Kahn is number one Star Trek in my book. But his opponent was human. I hope they start making Star trek more frightful and more drama. Most of the 2nd generation was like watching general hospital in space. And the outfits of the creatures just got unbelievable.

I know Star Trek is about finding human-like people on other planets. But what if there is none?
I agree that "The Wrath of Khan" was the best.

As for finding "human-like people" and shooting first? Hello!!!! What about the Horta? It also had no vocal-cords. Good thing Spock was around to communicate with it telepathically. The Horta was killing people because people were killing it's children first. They were shooting first and then begging for help later. Communication was the key for everybody's survival. And that will never change in Star Trek.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:36 AM
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I agree that "The Wrath of Khan" was the best.

As for finding "human-like people" and shooting first? Hello!!!! What about the Horta? It also had no vocal-cords. Good thing Spock was around to communicate with it telepathically. The Horta was killing people because people were killing it's children first. They were shooting first and then begging for help later. Communication was the key for everybody's survival. And that will never change in Star Trek.
If I remember my Star Trek VI, Kirk really hated the klingons. Does it matter if they look more alien than human? I think Kirk hates everything that cant be reasoned with. Hence phaser set to not stun. And I hope the new phasers dont just poke holes or cut neetly, perhaps, well, Ripley style exit.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:38 AM
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Star Trek was always in an Action-Adventure series, and used that platform as a way of examining human issues like the Arms Race, Racism, War, Diplomacy and even Religion.

I love the action and drama, and it is through these adventures that I might pick up a "Heavy Idea or Two".

Prime example: "The Doomsday Machine" was a metaphore for nuclear weapons going out of control. It's right there in the dialogue.

You are gripped and entertained by the drama, and subliminally get to think about the issues.

THAT is Star Trek. THAT is what I want this film to be.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:44 AM
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One Buck Films, oh, yeah, the Kirk I remember was a go get em kick butt Captain. But Spock ruined him later in the big screen. Made Kirk docile and less manly. I remember him doing hand to hand combat with Aligater man.
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Many Trek fans need to evolve.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:59 AM
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Star Trek was born in the sixties as a sci-fi reaction to the political and social turmoil of the era. Racism, war, poverty, inequality and imperialism were criticized trough the series, in the context of the possibility of a better future. The series might evolve to keep it fresh, but without losing its essence. Considering our planet actual situation is seem obvious that Star Trek values still valid and transcendental.
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Old 02-09-2008, 11:10 AM
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Many Trek fans need to evolve.
With them taking it back to the beginning, they could pretty much reinvent what is out there. I have already done Klingons. Romels. Aligater men. Smart flowers. Machine world. I'm ready for Kirk the conquerer. Nobody going to miss Space Aliens?
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