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Old 01-29-2009, 11:08 AM
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JJA: "The characters was the most important thing in it. We needed to be true to the spirit of those characters. There were certain iconic things -- if you're going to do "Star Trek," you've got to do the Enterprise and it has to look like the Enterprise. If you're going to do "Star Trek" you have to do costumes that feel like the costumes people know. You have to be able to glance at it and know what that is. Even the text, the font of "Star Trek" has to look like what you know."
"The phasers, the communicators, the Starfleet logo -- there are all these things that are the touchstones, the tenets of what makes "Star Trek" "Star Trek." If you're going to do this series those are things you don't mess with."
"And yet, the movie at its core is not only inspired by what has come before, it's deeply true to what's come before."

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"it has to look like the Enterprise" but doesn't quite do so. And he obviously will mess with the Starfleet logo.
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he said that he is staying true to the "Spirit" not every "inane detail"
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This is a more relevant quote:

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JJA: I think I benefited because I came into this movie as someone who appreciated "Star Trek" but wasn't an insane fanatic about it. The disadvantage is I didn't know everything I needed to know immediately at the beginning and had to learn it. The advantage though is I could look at "Star Trek" as a whole a little bit more like a typical moviegoer would see it; it allowed me to seize the things that I felt were truly the most iconic and important aspects of the original series and yet not be serving the master and trying to be true to every arcane detail. It let me look at the things I knew were critical.
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JJA: "The characters was the most important thing in it. We needed to be true to the spirit of those characters. There were certain iconic things -- if you're going to do "Star Trek," you've got to do the Enterprise and it has to look like the Enterprise. If you're going to do "Star Trek" you have to do costumes that feel like the costumes people know. You have to be able to glance at it and know what that is. Even the text, the font of "Star Trek" has to look like what you know."
"The phasers, the communicators, the Starfleet logo -- there are all these things that are the touchstones, the tenets of what makes "Star Trek" "Star Trek." If you're going to do this series those are things you don't mess with."
"And yet, the movie at its core is not only inspired by what has come before, it's deeply true to what's come before."

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"it has to look like the Enterprise" but doesn't quite do so. And he obviously will mess with the Starfleet logo.
1. Is there not an inherent difference in the terms "look like" and "exactly resemble"? Of course this new ship looks like the Enterprise, certainly more than the Kelvin does, for example. Unless one's only definition of the Enterprise is the model which appeared in TOS.

2. Once again I'll propose that we are (literally) not seeing the full picture yet, and could a story about deliberately changing the history of what we know also include possibilities to see the unchanged history (timeline) to appear as well?
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he said that he is staying true to the "Spirit" not every "inane detail"
He said "arcane," not "inane." Could have, but didn't.
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JJA: "The phasers, the communicators, the Starfleet logo -- there are all these things that are the touchstones, the tenets of what makes "Star Trek" "Star Trek." If you're going to do this series those are things you don't mess with."
"And yet, the movie at its core is not only inspired by what has come before, it's deeply true to what's come before."
Yet we have a ship claiming to be the Enterprise that looks the way it does...

Phasers that look like weapons from 20 years later...

Sounds like JJ is hoping someone will believe him.
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1. Is there not an inherent difference in the terms "look like" and "exactly resemble"? Of course this new ship looks like the Enterprise, certainly more than the Kelvin does, for example. Unless one's only definition of the Enterprise is the model which appeared in TOS.
I think elements of the Kelvin look more like the original Enterprise than the Abomination does...

It looks like a Federation starship, yes, a class similar to the Constitution, but not the Big E.
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Style-wise, perhaps the Kelvin is more similar in a narrow way, but configuration-wise it's an entirely different class of starship from the E... as fans themselves proved upon first glance at it -- we couldn't even determine if it had two nacelles or one, a deflector dish, etc. etc. It has many more obvious differences from the E -- certainly to the general viewing public -- than it does similarities. Draw the outline shape of the Kelvin, and general moviegoers would have no idea what ship it is... while many would recognize the configuration of the E.
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JJA: "The characters was the most important thing in it. We needed to be true to the spirit of those characters. There were certain iconic things -- if you're going to do "Star Trek," you've got to do the Enterprise and it has to look like the Enterprise. If you're going to do "Star Trek" you have to do costumes that feel like the costumes people know. You have to be able to glance at it and know what that is. Even the text, the font of "Star Trek" has to look like what you know."
"The phasers, the communicators, the Starfleet logo -- there are all these things that are the touchstones, the tenets of what makes "Star Trek" "Star Trek." If you're going to do this series those are things you don't mess with."
"And yet, the movie at its core is not only inspired by what has come before, it's deeply true to what's come before."

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"it has to look like the Enterprise" but doesn't quite do so. And he obviously will mess with the Starfleet logo.
i disagree, it look like the Enterprise, he didnt said : it has to look like exactly the same.

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I never said it looks nothing like it, only that it "doesn't quite do so".
A more severe thing is that he said he wouldn't change the SF symbol - but did.
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