The Official Star Trek Movie Forum

The Official Star Trek Movie Forum > Star Trek > Star Trek XI: The Movie > Inconsistencies
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-11-2009, 05:03 PM
TrekkerBob TrekkerBob is offline
Midshipman
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1
Default Inconsistencies

The Trek Universe was full of seeming contridictions and inconsistencies, most of which stemmed from TOS not expecting to make such an impact.

They weren't terribly careful about every little detail, but since then, people have come up with explanations for just about everything including smooth foreheads on Klingons in the 23rd century.

Right out of the box, I notice what I thought was a glaring inconsistency in the Trek world when in the trailer, in the first scene, The young Kirk is driving a sportscar like a pro. Undoubtably due to his love for antiques. That much makes sense, but this was not an automatic transmission. It was a standard.

Now fast forward to TOS episode "A Piece of the Action". Kirk liberates a car and drives Spock a few blocks down the street almost giving them both whiplash. Spock commends Kirk on being an excellent Starship captain, but a lousy cab driver or something to that effect. Kirk didn't understand the concept of gears at all, noting that he had heard about or read about them someplace.

I know it was a decade or so later in his life, but how will they explain his total loss of memory regarding driving a standard.

Anybody else notice anything that doesn't seem to add up?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-12-2009, 02:02 PM
GALACTICA's Avatar
GALACTICA GALACTICA is offline
Ensign
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: utah
Posts: 31
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkerBob View Post
The Trek Universe was full of seeming contridictions and inconsistencies, most of which stemmed from TOS not expecting to make such an impact.

They weren't terribly careful about every little detail, but since then, people have come up with explanations for just about everything including smooth foreheads on Klingons in the 23rd century.

Right out of the box, I notice what I thought was a glaring inconsistency in the Trek world when in the trailer, in the first scene, The young Kirk is driving a sportscar like a pro. Undoubtably due to his love for antiques. That much makes sense, but this was not an automatic transmission. It was a standard.

Now fast forward to TOS episode "A Piece of the Action". Kirk liberates a car and drives Spock a few blocks down the street almost giving them both whiplash. Spock commends Kirk on being an excellent Starship captain, but a lousy cab driver or something to that effect. Kirk didn't understand the concept of gears at all, noting that he had heard about or read about them someplace.

I know it was a decade or so later in his life, but how will they explain his total loss of memory regarding driving a standard.

Anybody else notice anything that doesn't seem to add up?
they wont explain it. because its immaterial. it doesnt matter. its splitting hairs.
things like this have to just be let go.

because it doesnt matter.

12013
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-12-2009, 02:13 PM
omegaman's Avatar
omegaman omegaman is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Penrith NSW Australia
Posts: 4,609
Default it's only my opinion but...

as stated before everything about the movie takes place in another timeline where Kirk can drive a car, a motorbike etc. So, if they were ever to make another episode titled "A PIECE OF THE ACTION" in that timeline then Kirk will be able to drive that car and give Spock the ride of his life!
__________________
TREK IS TREK. WHATEVER THE TIMELINE!

The next TV Series should be called STARFLEET!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-12-2009, 02:19 PM
CAPTAIN MOUSE's Avatar
CAPTAIN MOUSE CAPTAIN MOUSE is offline
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Placerville,CA
Posts: 2,564
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by omegaman View Post
as stated before everything about the movie takes place in another timeline where Kirk can drive a car, a motorbike etc. So, if they were ever to make another episode titled "A PIECE OF THE ACTION" in that timeline then Kirk will be able to drive that car and give Spock the ride of his life!
Why not I think that would be funnier than hell and something I would love to see!
__________________
CAN YOU CATCH SECOND HAND STUPIDITY? OR SHOULD I BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER HERE? - JEFF DUNHAM
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-12-2009, 04:20 PM
MrQ1701's Avatar
MrQ1701 MrQ1701 is offline
Vice Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Espanola, New Mexico
Posts: 3,940
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrekkerBob View Post
The Trek Universe was full of seeming contridictions and inconsistencies, most of which stemmed from TOS not expecting to make such an impact.

They weren't terribly careful about every little detail, but since then, people have come up with explanations for just about everything including smooth foreheads on Klingons in the 23rd century.

Right out of the box, I notice what I thought was a glaring inconsistency in the Trek world when in the trailer, in the first scene, The young Kirk is driving a sportscar like a pro. Undoubtably due to his love for antiques. That much makes sense, but this was not an automatic transmission. It was a standard.

Now fast forward to TOS episode "A Piece of the Action". Kirk liberates a car and drives Spock a few blocks down the street almost giving them both whiplash. Spock commends Kirk on being an excellent Starship captain, but a lousy cab driver or something to that effect. Kirk didn't understand the concept of gears at all, noting that he had heard about or read about them someplace.

I know it was a decade or so later in his life, but how will they explain his total loss of memory regarding driving a standard.

Anybody else notice anything that doesn't seem to add up?
Even without the alternate universe explanation, examples like the one above do NOT bother me one bit. Can kirk drive a car or not? Not something I consider "canon", just minor details that were written in order to add humor (or in the case of the new movie, action) to an episode. There are lots of these minor details that are really NOT worth scrutinizing.

__________________
To secure the peace is to prepare for war. -Metallica
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-12-2009, 04:28 PM
Indestructible Object's Avatar
Indestructible Object Indestructible Object is offline
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 193
Default

It was an alien built car, based on descriptions of a car in a book, so the gear shift is different then a real car because the aliens built it wrong, so Kirk has a hard time driving it. Problem solved, cannon saved, the end.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-12-2009, 04:39 PM
CDH-313's Avatar
CDH-313 CDH-313 is offline
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 302
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indestructible Object View Post
It was an alien built car, based on descriptions of a car in a book, so the gear shift is different then a real car because the aliens built it wrong, so Kirk has a hard time driving it. Problem solved, cannon saved, the end.
And it was based on a car from the 1920s.
__________________
. . . just an old-school Trekker getting by in a newfangled galaxy.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-12-2009, 04:40 PM
Indestructible Object's Avatar
Indestructible Object Indestructible Object is offline
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 193
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CDH-313 View Post
And it was based on a car from the 1920s.
Look at that, now we can all be happy about the car!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-12-2009, 05:01 PM
CDH-313's Avatar
CDH-313 CDH-313 is offline
Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 302
Default

. . . and move on to the Enterprise being built on Earth.
__________________
. . . just an old-school Trekker getting by in a newfangled galaxy.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-12-2009, 05:31 PM
mmoore's Avatar
mmoore mmoore is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: OKUSA
Posts: 1,973
Default

__________________
"Are you out of your Vulcan mind?"
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:13 AM.


Forum theme courtesy of Mark Lambert
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 by Paramount Pictures. STAR TREK and all related
marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All Rights Reserved.