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Old 01-23-2009, 10:05 AM
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Has nothing to do with intelligence. I know that no one here is literally stupid enough to not see the differences. It's a shot at apathy. Apathy on the part of the people creating this -- "Gosh, it's haaaaaaaard to stick to the original continuity visually! Jeepers, it's haaaaaaaaaaaard to write a story that fits in flush with the original continuity! Gee, it'll be haaaaaaaard to sell!" That's apathy, and I'll be bold enough to go further, it's laziness.

No one here is stupid enough to fail to recognize that. However, it seems that many are either so hungry for anything with the logo that they'll just accept whatever comes their way, and that's apathy, not stupidity.
There's no reason to continue insulting other fans like this, just because they see possibilities in this film which you do not.
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:11 PM
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Let me put it to you this way, since you seem to think I'm in nothing but complete adoration for this film.

There are quite a few things that scare me about this film that I base on the trailer as well. They all lead back acting and dialogue.

Boy Kirk doing wirefu out of the car and triumphantly exclaiming "My name is James Tiberius Kirk!" That makes me cringe.

Urban's acting for McCoy. That made my mouth stretch out in that painful look whenever you see a little boy fall off a bike.

"Buckle Up" made me want to see the other characters reactions to see if they had that look that said, "What the **** did he just say?"

The new ship design. Sometimes I like it, sometimes it looks awkward to me. My misgivings about it have nothing to do, however, with my need for established Star Trek history to remain rigid.

The story all over. I'm not really sold on it. I don't want an action only movie. This is why I'll wait and see.

Dialogue all over. Even as bad as Star Trek V was, it still had very good dialogue. I'm really looking for those moments of "arguing in a vacuum" as Kirk put it, where they start debating about the current situation before actually experiencing it enough to have a valuable conversation about it. Little bits like that that are very "Trekkish" to me.

I don't think I'm apathetic about this new Trek. I like what I see so far, but there are some things that have me raising an eyebrow.
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:20 PM
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But it's one thing to have negative feelings about the film. It's another thing to have negative feelings about someone who likes said film (or at least what we've seen so far of it). I have a lot of friends who do not like the same things I do. My own girlfriend doesn't like some of the stuff I like ("24"), and I don't like some of the stuff she's into either ("Desperate Housewives").

We feel no less towards each other despite differences of opinions.

So there's two things here:

1. All of your loved ones, friends and family, simply share all the same opinions as you.
2. You're a hermit.
3. We are misunderstanding you.

I'm ready to accept any of the above explanations.
Go with #3.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:27 PM
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But it's one thing to have negative feelings about the film. It's another thing to have negative feelings about someone who likes said film (or at least what we've seen so far of it). I have a lot of friends who do not like the same things I do. My own girlfriend doesn't like some of the stuff I like ("24"), and I don't like some of the stuff she's into either ("Desperate Housewives").

We feel no less towards each other despite differences of opinions.

So there's two things here:

1. All of your loved ones, friends and family, simply share all the same opinions as you.
2. You're a hermit.
3. We are misunderstanding you.

I'm ready to accept any of the above explanations.
You forgot one.

4. Hat on too tight.

There were a couple other possibilities, but I don't want to get banned just yet.
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:47 PM
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Is it just me or does the new captain's chair look like the one from Galaxy Quest?

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Old 01-24-2009, 08:54 PM
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:37 AM
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Is it just me or does the new captain's chair look like the one from Galaxy Quest?

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About as close as what you say Star Trek XI's Enterprise exterior is to TOS Enterprise exterior.

The armrests for Taggart's chair are gargantuan, while Kirk's chair is sufficient. In fact Taggart's chair is much thicker all around. The cushion is blue, Kirk's cushion is black, or dark blue. Kirk's armrests are pointed inward giving him easier access to the controls, Taggart's armrests are flat further away. The chair back for Taggart's is much narrower than Kirk's.

The comparison also fails to remember that Galaxy Quest is meant as a spoof on Star Trek, so similarities are inevitable.

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Comparison = Fail. But here's the catch. The comparison fails only based on your logic. If I were to agree with you about the similarities of the chairs, then you'd have to agree that the Enterprise (Star Trek XI) exterior is the same as Enterprise TOS exterior. See I'm afraid you've created a lose/lose scenario for yourself, sorry.

But thanks for posting that, because starbase brought it up in this thread before you, and I was hoping for a visual representation to see if it was true. I was willing to accept that it was. But... thanks for proving it wrong. Seriously, thank you.
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There is something about the bridge that reminds me of 2001 Space Odyssey.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:32 PM
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Kirk's armrests are pointed inward giving him easier access to the controls,
What an amusingly tiny little subject for me to pick a few nits out of, but what the hell, what else're we gonna do for 4 more months?

Could you actually type if the keyboard were split between those armrests? Look at the angle of 'em. Now take your right hand, hold it out in front of you and turn it 45 degrees counterclockwise so that your thumb is now angled toward the floor. Do the same with your left hand (rotating it clockwise, of course, to mirror the angle of your right hand.)

Could you actually use controls on those angles, especially that close to your torso. I don't think so. The chair embodies absolutely the worst example of form over function I've seen yet from this film.
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