The Official Star Trek Movie Forum

The Official Star Trek Movie Forum > Star Trek > Star Trek XI: The Movie > Spock's Bridge Outburst, WARNING: Contains speculation that may be actually spoilers?
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-16-2009, 02:20 PM
omegaman's Avatar
omegaman omegaman is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Penrith NSW Australia
Posts: 4,609
Default Spock's Bridge Outburst, WARNING: Contains speculation that may be actually spoilers?

Does Spock's outburst with Kirk on the bridge of the new Enterprise mean something significant?

Could contain spoilers:
__________________
TREK IS TREK. WHATEVER THE TIMELINE!

The next TV Series should be called STARFLEET!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-16-2009, 02:31 PM
CAPTAIN MOUSE's Avatar
CAPTAIN MOUSE CAPTAIN MOUSE is offline
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Placerville,CA
Posts: 2,564
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by omegaman View Post
Does Spock's outburst with Kirk on the bridge of the new Enterprise mean something significant?

Could contain spoilers:
It is my belief that New Spock is merely younger and not as disciplined as his counterpart is in TOS. Plus it has always been a struggle for Spock in any era to keep emotions in check. Remember his little outburst with Valeris? When he slapped the phaser away and growled with anger at her in TUC?
__________________
CAN YOU CATCH SECOND HAND STUPIDITY? OR SHOULD I BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER HERE? - JEFF DUNHAM
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-16-2009, 02:45 PM
MrQ1701's Avatar
MrQ1701 MrQ1701 is offline
Vice Admiral
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Espanola, New Mexico
Posts: 3,940
Default

Spock will be younger and in less control of his emotions.
__________________
To secure the peace is to prepare for war. -Metallica
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-16-2009, 03:14 PM
NCC-73515's Avatar
NCC-73515 NCC-73515 is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
Posts: 7,225
Default

He smiles when he touches a singing plant
And Vulcans have emotions. It is just the life-long learning process of suppression that doesn't always work...
__________________


"English! I thought I dreamed hearing it!"?
Khan, Space Seed (TOS)

Brought to you in living color by NCC.
-= first fan member =-

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-16-2009, 03:20 PM
cjopbj cjopbj is offline
Lieutenant Commander
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 581
Default

Spock shows emotion on Star Trek all the time. He's playfully irritated with McCoy, he's loyal to Kirk, caring of the ship and crew, and very easily embarrased of his human side. The computer I'm using to send this message shows me none of these feelings unless I press the icon buttom

He's cried and laughed. It wouldn't be Star Trek if it wasn't about trying to make Spock show emotions.

The entire basis of the McCoy/Spock banter is that McCoy is trying to help Spock release emotions in a gradual, safe manner so he doesn't bottle them all up and explode. Since the movie apparently is set around the time Spock meets McCoy, it makes sense that he's kept his emotions under lock and key and is ripe for an outburst. Spock learned a lot from McCoy. I hope the movie gives McCoy his due.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-16-2009, 03:44 PM
NCC-73515's Avatar
NCC-73515 NCC-73515 is offline
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
Posts: 7,225
Default

He cried in TMP, smiled in Cage and WNMHGB, oh and remember his "JIM!!!!" at the end of Amok Time
__________________


"English! I thought I dreamed hearing it!"?
Khan, Space Seed (TOS)

Brought to you in living color by NCC.
-= first fan member =-

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-16-2009, 03:55 PM
omegaman's Avatar
omegaman omegaman is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Penrith NSW Australia
Posts: 4,609
Default it's only my opinion but...

There has to be more to his reaction than mere undisciplined emotional behaviour, he is a Star Fleet officer and therefore his behaviour on the bridge would not be acceptable under Star Fleet regulations regardless of the circumstances.
__________________
TREK IS TREK. WHATEVER THE TIMELINE!

The next TV Series should be called STARFLEET!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-16-2009, 06:36 PM
cjopbj cjopbj is offline
Lieutenant Commander
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 581
Default

This is what I've read about the outburst:

Spoiler
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-16-2009, 07:40 PM
Beetlescott's Avatar
Beetlescott Beetlescott is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,645
Default

We all saw Spock down through the early years try to keep a lid on his feelings. Many times he was unsuccessful. He laughed and wept when struck by the pods, he cried and screamed in the Naked Time when he got drunk. And, like someone said, he laughed and smiled in The Menagerie. I think this is just another day for Spock even if someone else had an agenda.
__________________
LET'S MAKE SURE HISTORY NEVER FORGETS THE NAME ENTERPRISE!!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-16-2009, 07:54 PM
Elizadolots's Avatar
Elizadolots Elizadolots is offline
Admiral
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,466
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjopbj View Post
This is what I've read about the outburst:

Spoiler

I heard the same thing. It was, I think, one of the scenes shown when Abrams did his little "advance viewing" tour of the world....

And, it is absolutely true that early Spock was much more open about his emotions (smiling at the flowers, smirking at Uhura when she sings a suggestive song about him) than later Spock....and yet, later Spock was far more volatile...when he blew, he blew big!
__________________


Thanks to Ron Salon for the signature banner!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:57 AM.


Forum theme courtesy of Mark Lambert
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2009 by Paramount Pictures. STAR TREK and all related
marks and logos are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. All Rights Reserved.