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Old 02-09-2008, 10:11 AM
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People can appreciate Star Trek for its action and not for its philosophy if they want.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:14 AM
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People can appreciate Star Trek for its action and not for its philosophy if they want.
Of course they can. I even appreciate the action. It's great story telling. However, for someone to suggest that "Star Trek" become "Starship Troopers 2.0," and change the Klingons into UFO creatures is just patently absurd.
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You're comparing an apple to an orange. Cortez didn't find UFO creatures, either.
And if he did, nothing would have changed. He would have the same solution. What is that? after sword-swiping. Its a Kirk Mentality.
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Of course they can. I even appreciate the action. It's great story telling. However, for someone to suggest that "Star Trek" become "Starship Troopers 2.0," and change the Klingons into UFO creatures is just patently absurd.
Yeah, did it occur to you the way we perceive what is out there has changed since the 1970's? My mom did not tell me about space aliens when Kirk was kicking butt. So I perceive them as Worf.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:18 AM
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And if he did, nothing would have changed. He would have the same solution. What is that? after sword-swiping. Its a Kirk Mentality.
You are making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Of course they can. I even appreciate the action. It's great story telling. However, for someone to suggest that "Star Trek" become "Starship Troopers 2.0," and change the Klingons into UFO creatures is just patently absurd.
Well hopefully he was speaking metaphorically
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:20 AM
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Yeah, did it occur to you the way we perceive what is out there has changed since the 1970's? My mom did not tell me about space aliens when Kirk was kicking butt. So I perceive them as Worf.
Of course, but the Klingons ARE a humanoid-style race. Changing them into "UFO creatures"---whatever the hell that means---is just a horrible idea.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:26 AM
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Of course, but the Klingons ARE a humanoid-style race. Changing them into "UFO creatures"---whatever the hell that means---is just a horrible idea.
Its hard to say what people will think. But I know he would want to find out their technology. The message of Kirk always having the best weapons out there just blows away the reality. If Kirk could overcome Alien Tech with his wits-perhaps even use bare hands, that would make his character more exciting. Other than that, if he is all talk- I have seen that version of Kirk. More than enough.
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:29 AM
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The Aliens of Star Trek were always analogues for aspects of humanity in some way.

Initially, the Klingons were stand-n ins for the Russians as percieved in the Cold War.

In 1991, they took that analogy to the Berlin Wall.

UFO Creatures? interesting. Not what Star Trek is about.
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Wait a second...how many times did Kirk EVER have the "best weapons?" The Enterprise ALWAYS came up against technology that was FAR SUPERIOR to that of the Federation's.

You want Kirk to use his bare hands???? Have you NOT seen "Arena?"
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