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View Poll Results: Tiberius VS Siberius: What Did You Hear?
Tiberius 51 91.07%
Siberius 4 7.14%
Other 1 1.79%
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:39 PM
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"Tiberius" is not "Canon" so this film is not either. It was in the animated series that the revelation of Captain James T. Kirk's middle name was "Tiberius".

Since TAS is generally regarded as non-canon among fans, Gene Rodenberry himself rejected the notion that TAS was canon and the Stardates are inconsistent with those established in the original series ..... "Tiberius" is therefore not officially canon. For all we know our beloved captain's real name is James Thomas Kirk.

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I think that whether TAS is canon is open for debate. From memory-alpha:
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The show featured a handful of new technologies like the recreation room (later the idea was reused in TNG, where it was known as a holodeck) and the aqua-shuttle. It also features many non-humanoid alien species (and even some alien officers aboard the Enterprise) who could not have been featured within the original series' budget.
With the release of The Animated Series DVD release, the studio appears to have changed its stance, and is leaning towards the animated series being part of established Star Trek canon. [1] [2] [3] Previously, The Animated Series was not considered part of established Star Trek canon by Paramount Pictures. References from the series have gradually become more accepted in other Star Trek series, most notably on Deep Space Nine and Enterprise (see the Background section below for the complete list of references). Gene Roddenberry said that if he had known there would be more live-action Star Trek in the future, the animated series would have been far more logical and "canonable," or he might not have produced the animated series at all.
In 1975, the series won a Daytime Emmy Award in the area of "Best Children's Program" for the 1974-1975 television season, the only best-series Emmy ever won by Star Trek. It beat out Captain Kangaroo and The Pink Panther. Lou Scheimer accepted the award. The episode submitted to the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences for consideration of the show was "How Sharper Than a Serpent's Tooth".
The series, which lasted two years, could be viewed as the completion of the Enterprise's five-year mission. D.C. Fontana personally views all 22 episodes as year four. StarTrek.com considers the season collectively to represent the fifth and final year of the mission."

As for stardates...Anyone who has successfully figured out the stardate system has my sympathies...
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:16 PM
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As for stardates...Anyone who has successfully figured out the stardate system has my sympathies...
LOL - That's funny!
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:38 AM
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I think it's canon now it's been stated onscreen. Tiberius.
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Old 01-04-2009, 02:37 AM
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Oh for the love of all that's good and holy!!!!! I heard it on my girlfriend's computer, which has a screwed up sound card or something because I can barely hear the sound, and I still heard Tiberius!

If this is the sort of thing I have to look forward to when this movie comes out - nitpicky nitpickers nitpicking the movie like a family of baboons - I'm about ready to give up on you grumpy old farts.
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:43 AM
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Oh for the love of all that's good and holy!!!!! I heard it on my girlfriend's computer, which has a screwed up sound card or something because I can barely hear the sound, and I still heard Tiberius!

If this is the sort of thing I have to look forward to when this movie comes out - nitpicky nitpickers nitpicking the movie like a family of baboons - I'm about ready to give up on you grumpy old farts.
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I think it's canon now it's been stated onscreen. Tiberius.

He said "Tiberius". Plain as day. Also, "Tiberius" was used in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. General Chang addressed Kirk as James Tiberius Kirk, with emphasis on "Tiberius" during the trial. Seen on screen. Thus canon.
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Oh for the love of all that's good and holy!!!!! I heard it on my girlfriend's computer, which has a screwed up sound card or something because I can barely hear the sound, and I still heard Tiberius!

If this is the sort of thing I have to look forward to when this movie comes out - nitpicky nitpickers nitpicking the movie like a family of baboons - I'm about ready to give up on you grumpy old farts.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:34 AM
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Oh for the love of all that's good and holy!!!!! I heard it on my girlfriend's computer, which has a screwed up sound card or something because I can barely hear the sound, and I still heard Tiberius!

If this is the sort of thing I have to look forward to when this movie comes out - nitpicky nitpickers nitpicking the movie like a family of baboons - I'm about ready to give up on you grumpy old farts.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:47 AM
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We all know it is Tiberius... young Kirk was shouting it at the cop after he almost died so.... they do morph together sligtly whan said quickly & loud.

jeesh!

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Old 01-04-2009, 01:57 PM
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Then again, some of you may have experienced bad sound equipment and not known it. In which case it sounded like, "My name ith Jameth Thtiberiuth Kirk!"

Or maybe it was the actor, and I'll have to watch it again. It may be a point of criticism that the actor needs better pronunciation. A lot of times people tend to run things together. So may have wanted to say "James Tiberius Kirk." But said in rapid motion it may have sounded like "Jaysyberiuskirk!"

My response to that latter part is, HE'S A KID! Plus I'd actually be criticall if he was overpronouncing it like an ***. He's playing (or at least attempting to) a realistic Earth human being from Iowa. Us Americans have bad English.
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I think the poll results have settled the matter! There doesn't appear to be a lot of doubt!
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