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Old 01-03-2009, 06:59 AM
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While we don't know precisely which part of global warming is human-made, we know that global heating will cause massive damage. The estimates in the Stern Review (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Review) are in the range of 5-20 % of GDP we would lose each year if we do nothing.
If a small part of global heating is caused by us, reducing our emissions will do less good, but the costs of mothballing some of our industries are still smaller than the costs caused by uncountered global heating. Straightforward economic logic suggests this, not ecologic idealism.

As mainly development countires will suffer, our complacency is understandable but not excusable.
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:02 AM
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There IS NO GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!!! I can go find the report on it RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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Global warming is az scam, Al Gore did it to get VP and money. It worked. Now, we are focusing on Better fuel to reduce emmisions, which is taking out of food ( corn, especially) thats probably why our economy is such a mess. Its been proven not true! There are records proving a GLOBAL drop in temperature from 07. Now we have to see 08's. Anyways, how can you say Global Warming, when there is 10 Ft of snow covering most of northern US?
What is your source?
There is much more to the world than just northern US.
And would you stop screaming?!
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:17 AM
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Global warming is az scam, Al Gore did it to get VP and money. It worked. Now, we are focusing on Better fuel to reduce emmisions, which is taking out of food ( corn, especially) thats probably why our economy is such a mess. Its been proven not true! There are records proving a GLOBAL drop in temperature from 07. Now we have to see 08's. Anyways, how can you say Global Warming, when there is 10 Ft of snow covering most of northern US?
We don't talk about temperature differences between two years.
Difference between wheather and climate: http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/...1&postcount=16

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Old 01-03-2009, 07:26 AM
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All we have to do is get JJ to make a movie about the history of the world. That will rape my childhood, completely erase everything that has happened up to this point, and then we can start fresh and be all touchy-feely and stuff.
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:30 AM
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Ok. The GLOBAL climate temparature dropped 5%............Global warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even the weather channels founder was going to sue gore! They had put so much into that nonsense.
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:45 AM
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You seem to refer to an average annual temperature drop, in a certain area of the world. Globale heating refers to worldwide long-run temperature averages.
Take stock markets: most of them dropped about -50% during the last half year while the long-run average annual performance is about +8%.
Short-run and long-run, weather and climate, apples and oranges.
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:54 AM
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FACT: The Earth is in a warming trend in regard to climate.
FACT: CO2 is a greenhouse gas
FACT: Humans have pumped billions upon billions of pounds of C02 into the atmosphere

UNKNOWN: How much our polluting has affected the climate or how much it is contributing to the warming of the planet.

TomCat- The Earth IS warming. Funny thing is (not really funny, but ironic) the warming effect on the planet as a whole can actually cause cooling for many parts that were warmer since weather patterns (jet stream etc...) change.
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