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Old 12-30-2008, 01:24 AM
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That was First Contact, wasn't it? Someone (Geordie?) showing ZC the ship through a telescope?
Are you thinking of the Voy episode called Blink of an Eye, where Voy is mistaken as a God figure or "Ground Shaker"
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Old 12-30-2008, 01:25 AM
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Are you thinking of the Voy episode called Blink of an Eye, where Voy is mistaken as a God figure or "Ground Shaker"
Maybe. That's why I'm asking.
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Both are correct.

In first contact Geordie shows Cochrane Enterprise through his (ZC's) telescope. There's no discussion of the strength of the telescope or whether she's visible with the naked eye.

In the VOy episode mentioned, she gets caught in a sub-ordbital position. She's visible to the naked eye as a star, significantly brighter than any others, to the point of being visible in daylight. As technology on the planet developed, they became able to view the ship properly, eventually they were able to send a ship and landing party.
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Yes. Easily. The ISS is now 108 m long, with a "wingspan" substantially longer than that. Yet, you can make out the shape of it with nothing more than a pair of binoculars. I can't tell you how many times I've been at star parties, and watched substantially smaller sats pass in front of the view, and have been able to make out their shapes fairly well. Those are far, far, smaller than 100 feet... and obviously if you can make it out under 100 feet, you can make out the shape of something 10x that size.
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Are you thinking of the Voy episode called Blink of an Eye, where Voy is mistaken as a God figure or "Ground Shaker"

That planet was so unique with the Takion core you cant really use that planet as example.
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Both are correct.

In first contact Geordie shows Cochrane Enterprise through his (ZC's) telescope. There's no discussion of the strength of the telescope or whether she's visible with the naked eye.

In the VOy episode mentioned, she gets caught in a sub-ordbital position. She's visible to the naked eye as a star, significantly brighter than any others, to the point of being visible in daylight. As technology on the planet developed, they became able to view the ship properly, eventually they were able to send a ship and landing party.

The Borg sphere was visible to Lily from Montana.
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Yes. Easily. The ISS is now 108 m long, with a "wingspan" substantially longer than that. Yet, you can make out the shape of it with nothing more than a pair of binoculars. I can't tell you how many times I've been at star parties, and watched substantially smaller sats pass in front of the view, and have been able to make out their shapes fairly well. Those are far, far, smaller than 100 feet... and obviously if you can make it out under 100 feet, you can make out the shape of something 10x that size.
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The Borg sphere was visible to Lily from Montana.

Maybe where you guys live, but with the amount of light polution here in NYC you're lucky if you can see the moon sometimes.
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Maybe where you guys live, but with the amount of light polution here in NYC you're lucky if you can see the moon sometimes.
Where I come from we call it "civilization."
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At night light polution is a big factor in being able to see objects in space. Before I moved to South Carolina I lived in California were the view was just as bad . You couldn't see anything but a dirty moon and a hand full of stars. When I moved out here I seen a satillite from the ground without a telescope for the first time , so I could imagine you would be able to see a 1000 foot ships out line from the ground just without clearity
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Maybe where you guys live, but with the amount of light polution here in NYC you're lucky if you can see the moon sometimes.
Man you can say that again. Sometimes I forget there's a sky.
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