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Old 12-04-2008, 11:36 AM
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The "new" Abramsprise sucks targ booty. Like it or lump it? I'll lump it. This design is much better: http://deg3d.biz/splash_TOS.5_E/TOS.5_E.html
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I have to say, Deg's Enterprise is exactly what I mean with my "color within the lines" design update philosophy. From a distance, it's nearly identical. Up close shots, though, show the torpedo launchers just forward of the "lightbulb" on the underside of the saucer (sorry, my geek cred doesn't extend to knowing what that thing is/does). The detailing around the impulse engines, and even the glowing grilles on the nacelles of his rendition don't bother me because it's kept very, very subtle and depends on the right lighting to even be visible, much like the same effect which would follow "later" in the TMP refit.
I have to say I agree 100% with the views expressed here.
As for the comparison chart above, Abramsprise is as close to 1701 as the C is to the D. They just don't look like they're remotely the same ship.
They both have a saucer, two warp nacells, and an engineering section, and there the similarity ends.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:39 AM
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The "new" Abramsprise sucks targ booty. Like it or lump it? I'll lump it. This design is much better: http://deg3d.biz/splash_TOS.5_E/TOS.5_E.html
Sure as hell is.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:42 AM
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Not 'paint by numbers' -- 'color within the lines.' You, uh, have done them both as a kid, right? You do know the fundamental difference between the two concepts?
The technical difference, yes -- hardly fundamental though, since both require that you observe the rules strictly to yield a predictable result.

Staying within the lines, like always painting the '5' space blue, results in standard duplications but very little creativity. I'm not saying TREK should be 'painted' or 'colored' like Pollack or Picasso would, but nor can it survive without some creative risks taken.

There is created art, and there is color copying. True, if all one demands is flawless consistency, then rote fill-in-the-blanks is the way to go.

I know I want more from this film.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:45 AM
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So if, when I was younger, I didn't always follow the guide colour I was told to but used different ones if I wanted to - does that explain why I find the possible changes in the film easier to accept?
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Kirk also liked to change the rules.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:54 AM
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Well maybe that explains me...when I used a different color I was beaten and had electrical shocks applied to me.
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That must have been one mean kindergarten.
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Oh we're talking in Kindergarten, I was talking about at home.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:57 AM
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Oy, even worse!
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