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Old 12-01-2008, 07:14 AM
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Eh, the Okuda's used to be the keepers of Canon, but even then, they were more of a general guideline.

For example, in the Encyclopedia, they liked to make a lot of the lost ships mentioned in the TOS episodes "Daedalus" class vessels, because chronologically, it fit. They also threw in a picture of what they thought the "Daedalus" class looked like. However, were any new incarnation of Star Trek, whether TV or Movie suddenly to show, say, the Archon as an "NX" class for example, then the visual record superscedes the Okuda's encyclopedia.

Thats just wrong. Wheres the loyalty.
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Thats just wrong. Wheres the loyalty.
If it wasn't onscreen in a movie or episode, than really it is speculation on the Okuda's part. If a ship is shown onscreen as a different class than it was described in the encyclopedia, then yes, the onscreen version becomes "canon".

I wish the writers had the Trek encyclopedia by there side as they write new movies and episodes, but that doesn't seem to be the case in many instances.
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If it wasn't onscreen in a movie or episode, than really it is speculation on the Okuda's part. If a ship is shown onscreen as a different class than it was described in the encyclopedia, then yes, the onscreen version becomes "canon".
Exactly, the Okudas just filled in blanks with educated guesswork until canon replaced it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:09 AM
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Q: What is canon?
A: Geek-rape.
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If it wasn't onscreen in a movie or episode, than really it is speculation on the Okuda's part. If a ship is shown onscreen as a different class than it was described in the encyclopedia, then yes, the onscreen version becomes "canon".

I wish the writers had the Trek encyclopedia by there side as they write new movies and episodes, but that doesn't seem to be the case in many instances.
I mean the loyaty between paramount and the Okuda's or berman and Okuda's
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Do you mean why didn't they stick to the Okudas guesswork?
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Canon is like jello: it has shape and substance, but you just can't nail it to the wall and make it stick.
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Canon is like jello: it has shape and substance, but you just can't nail it to the wall and make it stick.
Depends on how long you let it sit out, doesn't it? Might not even need the nail, just a good arm.
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True in a general sense, but my point was that it's the pinning down of jello which makes it fall apart.... different effect than mere suction.

Unless anyone wants to propose that "canon sucks"?

Then again, I despise jello, so I'm happy to take your word on aging it, Saint. Your humor's appreciated.
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